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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-02 02:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #1642 ]

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[identity profile] cephiedvariable.livejournal.com 2011-07-02 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that there's anything wrong with reading YA fiction, but I get kind of side-eyeing when I see giant threads of people agreeing wholesale that YA fiction is better, more innovative, better at gender politics and altogether implicitly the more genuine and worthwhile choice.

I get all side-eyeing like: "Guys, guys, have you never read a book?????"

[identity profile] dark-puck.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I have.

Guess what?

I still prefer YA.

[identity profile] cephiedvariable.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and that's fine. But it doesn't mean that traditional/"adult" fiction is bad or less worthwhile. YA has it's strengths and there's nothing inherently wrong with enjoying it primarily, but I reserve the right to be annoyed about how people throw the entire tradition of literature out the window because they personally prefer YA.
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[personal profile] herongale 2011-07-03 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
OMG same.

I think that people who say that are kind of proving they don't read a lot of fiction aimed at adults, sadly enough.

Just because C.S. Lewis gives the go-ahead for people to feel free to love children's literature at all ages (and I am definitely on that side of the fence: one of my favourite books of all time remains One Hundred and One Dalmatians by Dodie Smith), doesn't mean that adult literature is inferior and pointless and not worth reading.

It's like there's this kind of reverse snobbery going on where people actually seem to be proud of proclaiming that they have no patience for adult fiction. I get that a lot of this attitude is reactionary and defensive, probably because they get nagged on a lot by people in their RL who tease them for reading books aimed at children, but come on. THERE ARE SO MANY AMAZING BOOKS AIMED AT ADULTS AND IT MAKES ME SAD THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE SO STUCK IN THE YA GHETTO THAT THEY HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED THE TRUE WONDER OF GREAT ADULT FICTION.

I mean, "The Adventures of Kavalier and Clay," anyone? "Norweigian Wood?" "Cryptonomicon?" Hell, "TIL WE HAVE FACES?" (by the oft-quoted C.S. Lewis, no less?)

THESE ARE SOME AMAZING BOOKS PEOPLE. AMAZING. SO AMAZING.

[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
PREACH. AMAZING BOOKS = AMAZING. plus you mentioned Murakami, so EVEN MORE AMAZING.

[identity profile] lashiec.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
FUCK YEAH CRYPTONOMICON.

[identity profile] rayiroth.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I don't understand the point of "hey look at my laughing at people who limit themselves outside of YA books by bragging about how I limit myself to YA books".

Doing it wrong.

[identity profile] kathkin.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously I can't speak for everyone in the thread, but I don't think many people were saying they only read YA - my bookshelf is currently split between YA fantasy, adult fantasy, a wee bit of children's fiction (Peter Pan ftw) and classical Greek and Roman authors.

Also, I was mostly thinking of what is easily available in bookshops. There's a ton of interesting and innovative adult fantasy available, but for the most part the F&SF sections of most bookshops I have been in consist of paranormal romance, LOTR knockoffs and comedies (aside from a few particularly popular authors). The YA fantasy tends to be much more varied. There's a reason why most people into F&SF buy online now, I think.

[identity profile] deadtree.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I read a lot of both YA and adult fiction, as I said, and I enjoy them both for different reasons. Nothing is implicitly better or worse than anything else; both have merits. I think a lot of people are just agreeing that it's sad when people discount all of YA simply because it's YA. Just like it's irritating when someone insists that all fantasy is stupid for no reason other than it's fantasy.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-03 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
This. There's nothing wrong with reading it, but I've always found the prose in YA novels pretty damn lackluster.

[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Thread context is important. The OP of the thread drew a line in the sand between "YA" and "enriching, life-changing fiction." People responded by saying that at least in some ways YA is better than adult fiction.
Also, clearly these people read. Presumably that is why they hold opinions on different types of books.

[identity profile] holidaylights.livejournal.com 2011-07-03 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
Same.

I'm kind of over most YA stuff in general though TBH.