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[identity profile] thegutterati.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I mainly have a problem with conservative christians because I see the damage they do. Some kids at my moms church through rocks at some gay prop 8 protesters. My uncle wants to kill all the gays. As a kid I went to one of the famed "jesus camps" where they literally try to brainwash you. My grandma thinks that natural disasters are gods wrath, and I know many who think that only gay people and sinners get aids, so they think that all of the children in Africa with aids are made up by the "liberal media"
I love when you all do things do that are good. Fundraisers for disaster victims, helping the homeless, that sort of thing.

tl;dr, my problem with christians is how some (hopefully the minority) handle it as a way to spread hate and bigotry.

[identity profile] twilightedge.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't understand that stuff. The Westboro Baptist guy gives Christians a bad name. He even came to our church and they started yelling at us. Why would he be yelling at fellow Christians? o_o;

I think a lot of people who don't study the Bible (Christians and non) assume that they can do what they want and are covered by grace and that God is on their side, and that justice is done etc etc. They seem to forget what Christ taught. He was just but he was also loving to his enemies. He even told Peter not to get revenge on the guards who were taking him to be arrested.

I don't understand how they can think that children in Africa with aids are made up. o_o; We have a relief fund for Haiti that we've been working with for years and we do a lot in our community too to help others and let them know about Christ. It's unfortunate thought that you've encountered those who give Christians a bad name, and I'm sorry for that.

[identity profile] thegutterati.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know what you mean. My family always yells to read the bible, and I've read it 3 times (cover to cover) and no one in my family had even read it once. They think that because I'm an atheist I can know nothing about their religion when they refuse to read their own holy book. It makes me sad. I think that if they read it they could understand their own faith so much better. (i personally read it because I believe that it's important to understand what all faiths believe, and in the u.s, christianity comes up the most so it's important to understand it).

And thank you for that. I know not all christians are like that, but it sure is frustrating to have so many like this in one area.

[identity profile] twilightedge.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Would you be interested in any Bible studies? That helps me a lot even though I've studied the Bible for years. I often get behind on the cultural significance and modern significance hehe.

I can't judge them since I don't know them but in the Bible it says you'll be known by the fruits of the spirit (by that it means the holy spirit, which if one believes that Christ lived and died for our sins, was resurrected, then they'll have Christ inside of them in the form of the holy spirit) and those fruits are love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. It's from Gal. 5:22-23.

I'm not perfect but through Christ I am made so. If your family members start getting mad at you or whatever, just kindly point them to that verse. And I mean kindly haha. Really, other Christians are suppose to chastise those in the church for being jerks, in a nice way. =)

And yes I agree it's important to know where one is coming from, so that's why I don't fly off the handle when someone disagrees with me.

[identity profile] thegutterati.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw, that's sweet of you, but I think I'll pass c: I did a bunch of those as a kid and (younger) teen (i'm 18 now, and the last one I did was when I was 16, I think).

That's a nice verse, I've always liked that one. I think I'll tell them that one the next time they act unsavory.

You seem very nice, btw!

[identity profile] twilightedge.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I see. What all did you study? I sort of grew up in the church too but my family and I only started going when I was 13, so I didn't know much haha. After that though I stopped going during high school but picked it back up because I chose to do it, and it wasn't something my parents forced me to do.

But I can understand the choice you made, it's something we have to choose for ourselves, it can't be made for us.

Yeah, I like that one too. It reminds me of how I should act, not how I want to act haha.

And thank you, that makes me happy. You're nice as well. =D
Even though I don't agree with others online and in real life on hot button issues I try not to make a point of being dead set against them because that's silly. There's always some common ground with anyone, I find.

[identity profile] thegutterati.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember extensively studying psalms, acts, the first 5 books, job, both of the samules and kings, proverbs, matthew, mark, luke, john.... actually, all of the new testament. There were other little things here and there, but we mainly went by book.

Aw, thanks.
I think that's a good life philosophy c:

[identity profile] twilightedge.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* That's a good way to do it. I'm currently just sifting through various verses and reading some C.S. Lewis.

Yeah, I think it is too hehe. Seeing as how Christ hung out with tax collectors, fishermen, beggars, etc and not with the big wigs and people of higher repute in their day.

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
As a kid I went to one of the famed "jesus camps" where they literally try to brainwash you

That's...awful. So is most of the rest of that post really. I'm so sorry you're exposed to this environment :(

[identity profile] thegutterati.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks c: It was pretty awful, but I turned out alright, so no harm was done. I just have great horror stories to tell now haha

[identity profile] peachxcandy.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
"they think that all of the children in Africa with aids are made up by the 'liberal media'"

Um, what on Earth? I'm a conservative Christian myself, but that is just... ridiculous. Seriously though, I think a lot of what you're referring to here isn't exactly Christianity, but just plain ignorance ((though yeah, the latter is very often disguised as the former.))

[identity profile] thegutterati.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I realize that not all christians are like this, trust me, and I know that it is ignorance, but they use their "christianity" as a way to justify their ignorance :c It makes me sad...