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Honestly? As someone who speaks 2/3 languages and who finds plenty of translations to be better than the original, I'd kindly ask you to get the fuck over yourself.
Not everyone has your (or mine, by association) privilege of speaking many languages. Subtitles detract from the performance and enjoying the MUSIC and having such a nice bunch of variations in the lyrics according to language is what IMO makes translation a new richness, and not something that ruins the original.
Are you one of those who think movies shouldn't ever be dubbed? Or that disney songs should be all kept in english?

...and by 2/3 I mean 2 and with some effort 3. Damn, I wish I could have an anon edit button :(

Are you one of those who think movies shouldn't ever be dubbed?

I absolutely think that. It's horrid. I can sort of understand it for Disney songs because the target audience are children.

if you don't believe that this shows the beauty dubbing can do then you have no fucking soul

Wow, thank you for linking this. (So many translations! Flemish! Who knew they translated English films into Flemish?)

Us over here in Flanders. I hope your comment wasn't meant to come off as douchey.

No, I'm admitting, honestly, how ignorant I am! I'm delighted to learn that American filmmakers actually take the time to get a film into languages that I'm guessing most of us self-centered Americans have hardly even heard of--me very much included. I didn't even know where Flemish was spoken before I saw this video and looked it up! But I am particularly glad to have been given the enlightenment, and to know just how far filmmakers go to make movies accessible world-wide.

I am actualfax crying right now. Thanks for sharing that. It WAS beautiful.

Oh my gosh, this is gorgeous. I'd forgotten how much I loved this movie, and this makes me love it more. Thank you. ♥

Surprise: a lot of languages, especially French, have improved on the original Disney version.

Not the OP, but I think dubbing and translation should not always be lumped together. Translations are definitely important and often great works in their own right, not to mention a wonderful way of bringing good works to a wider audience. I feel that dubbing animated movies is similar to translating literature or plays or anything, but dubbing live-action films is a whole another matter. In animation, the visual presentation of the character is not directly married to its voice. Naturally, voice actors are picked with care, and in my experience, most dub casting tries to find similar voices in order to maintain the creators' idea of the character. Meanwhile, in live-action, the voice of the actor is an integral part of their overall performance, causing any dub to diminish and alter it. While in animation, a new dub replaces the earlier one, in live-action, it leaves behind a kind of a half-performance.

In live-action movies aimed at children dubbing can still be the preferable alternative, but in those aimed at adult audiences, the subtitles enable the audience to see a particular actor's entire performance as they intended it, and they can still enjoy the dialogue in their own language. (Subtitles are a great language learning tool as well. I'd know hardly any English if it wasn't for subtitles. :))

Alter, yes. Diminish, no. Not necessarily. Hell, in many cases, it can even add.

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