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fandomsecrets2011-07-10 03:51 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-07-10 03:51 pm
[ SECRET POST #1650 ]
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 207 secrets from Secret Submission Post #236.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 1 2 - omgiknowthatotherOP ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-12 05:46 am (UTC)(link)1. Just because a book isn't on display doesn't mean it isn't in circulation. The picture has relevance to the secret.
2. Not all library hide the children and YA books away. The libraries in my city put those on display, especially in the summer to encourage kids and teens to read more.
3. Saying you haven't seen displays for these books doesn't mean they don't exist elsewhere. It makes you sound self-absorbed and unaware of the world outside of your little bubble. Obviously these displays exist or that image wouldn't exist. It's clearly in a library. Maybe it's not YOUR library, but it's someone's.
4. Going back to you being so blissfully unaware of your surroundings, yes, people do masturbate to books. Even ones without pictures. As evidence in fandom. Granted it's digital, but I wouldn't see why it wouldn't apply to paper books too.
5. "ejaculate all over the books..." Now that's just stupid. Are you really that naive? People don't usually do that ON material, but not everyone washes their hands either. It's disgusting to think someone was reading a book, fapped or wiped their ass, and then picked it up again to turn the page. Unwashed is unwashed.
6. I don't use public computers. I don't use many public facilities unless I have to. And when I do, I wash my fucking hands.
I think you're in denial about how people treat books they've borrowed because you are a librarian. I wouldn't want to think about it either if I were you, but the reality is that there are people that would treat the books as the secret described whether you want to believe it or not. And, yes, it is gross.
Long ass response (part one)
1) I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm still trying to sort my way through the first part of this particular comment because of all the double negatives. I never said the picture wasn't relevant to the secret, but honestly, that doesn't look like a Twilight display to me. Even though sign pictured in the secret mentions the Twilight series, there is one book that I can pick out from the actual series on that cart. The rest appear to be other teen novels that may or may not include vampires/werewolves/whatever in their storylines (I don't know as they're unfamiliar to me). I don't see how that is a display for the series. To me, it looks very much like an encouragement for (young) people to read more and showing them options of books of a similar nature if they read and liked Twilight. A display of the series would have just that: the series.
2) I know that not all libraries hide the YA books away, but of the three main libraries I frequent (I live within walking distance of one, have close ties to another in a nearby neighborhood and work in a large university library), one and only one of them has YA books in a prominent place. There are advertisements in the two public ones for summer reading programs and such, but the books themselves? Not so visible unless you wander a bit.
3) I know that just because I haven't seen them doesn't mean that they don't exist somewhere. I'm not so arrogant as to assume that. However, none of the libraries I've been to have had such a thing, and thus it's hard for me to see what the fuss is about because I'm working off of my personal experience. If that makes me seem close-minded, then I'm sorry, but this is what I know, and none of the libraries I go to have had such a display for these books, even though there have been some fairly large events centered around the Harry Potter series at one of them. As I said before, the little sign above the book cart in the secret doesn't seem like much of a display to me, to be quite honest, or at least it looks nothing like the displays for books/series I have seen in libraries. A display of a sub-genre of YA literature? Perhaps. A display of the Twilight series? Not so much.
I have, however, seen huge displays for both series in book stores (sometimes large enough to take over as much as a quarter of the store), and the small sign/cart pictured in the secret isn't enough to convince me that the OP isn't mixing library displays and book store displays. Sorry. :/
4) I know people masturbate to books. If they didn't, then half the photography books in the art section of my workplace wouldn't get checked out. It's basically porn poorly disguised as academia. However, the OP seems to be saying that because there is so much porn of the characters online, then naturally people masturbate to the non-erotic source material. I don't doubt that there are people like that, but it seems highly unlikely that someone would do that with a library copy of, say, Harry Potter unless it was some sort of bizarre prank. I'd think someone who masturbated seriously to the source material would want to do so again and would thus go and buy their own copy rather than attempt to repeatedly check out what is sure to be a popular book or risk fines for hanging onto it.
Just because I like the characters of a series enough to want to read about them boning each other doesn't mean that I'm going to masturbate to them wandering Hogwarts, learning magic and fighting the Big Bad or whatever the hell they do in the Twilight series. Most people I can think of would want to masturbate to erotic material. Since there really isn't any in the source materials, they go and create it online and then masturbate to that.
Long ass response (part two)
Personally, I would be more afraid of germs from someone who didn't wash their hands after a trip to the bathroom than the off-chance that someone masturbated to the book and then handled it with unwashed hands. Fecal matter trumps semen/vaginal fluid (unless there's blood or some sort of infection present) any day for me because the possibility of of the former is so much greater of being found on an item than the latter. I'd rather not have either, but that's a fantasy when dealing with any public facility. Besides, how do you know that everyone who picked up the book you bought in a store had clean hands?
6) I don't either. I also tend to avoid public restrooms like the plague. Always have. However, many people I've come across in libraries refuse to handle books for sanitary reasons and then happily wander over to use the computers. I'm not the first to point out the sketchiness of the cleanliness of public computer terminals on this thread. (http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/720980.html?thread=456991572#t456991572) And yes, I wash my hands frequently when I go to libraries. Why? Because the one I'm at the most (my place of employment) is most frequented by college students and the homeless. I don't know and don't ever want to know where they've been.
I'm not in denial about how people treat books. One of the jobs I have is to fine people for ruined books, and there have been some terrible, terrible things done to those items. I just don't see why these books in particular should be avoided when there are others that are probably far worse.
I will, however, admit that I'm biased against the e-books mentioned in the secret because they're impractical and costly to libraries. If the content of an e-book is checked out to a patron's personal device, most publishers then require the library to re-purchase the book after twenty-five check-outs, which can be ridiculously expensive for a popular book. Then the logical choice is for the library to provide its own e-readers, which are expensive and are likely to be stolen, which is also expensive (people will come up with most any excuse not to pay a fine). And, should the library provide the e-readers, we have come back to the problem of public computers yet again.
People are gross, yes, but that's to be expected in any public space. I just don't see why these books are to be avoided more than any other if the OP wishes to continue visiting libraries.