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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-12 08:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #1652 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1652 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Burlesque, Christina Aguilera]


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[Pretty Little Liars]


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[Suburban Knights]


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[Veronica Mars]


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[David Bowie, The Hunger Games]


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(Anonymous) 2011-07-13 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I couldn't find the words for it before, but I think masculinity and femininity are an established shorthand for society's traditions and stereotypes about the sexes. But also don't think anyone necessarily has to be bound by those traditions and stereotypes. Bucking the norm might not always be easy and it might not always be comfortable, but it makes more sense to me than trying to say "I'm neither!" (which also seems like it would be neither easy nor comfortable as far as dealing with haters goes).

I replied to anon just above your comment in a way that might explain it better or differently or something.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-13 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I think masculinity and femininity are an established shorthand for society's traditions and stereotypes about the sexes. But also don't think anyone necessarily has to be bound by those traditions and stereotypes.

If masculinity and femininity don't have to bind anyone, why can't someone identify as someone in the middle of the spectrum? Neither totally male nor totally female.

You are the one that seems to be insisting that people pick one and stick to it, here. 'You don't have to be bound by gender, so bind yourself to the gender assigned to you at birth!' Do you really not see the contradiction there.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-13 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
You are the one that seems to be insisting that people pick one and stick to it, here.
No, I'm saying people are BORN with a gender (not that they have to pick one). Society has tried to define it with traditions and stereotypes, but people do not have to be beholden to those traditions and stereotypes to still be their gender. Because traditions and stereotypes are not the end-all, be-all of gender.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-13 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
People are born with a sex. Gender isn't determined until later. A male baby raised completely female will likely have a female gender, even if the baby wasn't born the female sex.

Sex is not the end-all, be-all of gender.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-13 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Actually that is not true and that train of thought has actually led to a bunch of kids being screwed up:
See the most famous example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

So I'd argue that you ARE born with a gender, it's just not necessarily the same as our sex.