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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-12 08:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #1652 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1652 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Burlesque, Christina Aguilera]


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[Pretty Little Liars]


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[Suburban Knights]


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[Veronica Mars]


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[Glee]


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[Harold Lloyd]


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[5 Days a Stranger]


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[The Laws of Magic]


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[Megaman]


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[Uncharted]


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[Sherlock]


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[The Land Before Time VII: The Stone of Cold Fire]


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[Mass Effect]


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[Ano Hana]


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[Colonymired, Blocklocked and Team Paradox]


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[David Bowie, The Hunger Games]


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Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 130 secrets from Secret Submission Post #236.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - take it to comments ], [ 1 - not English ].
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(Anonymous) 2011-07-13 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Um...I DO get trans-ness. I brought it up, specifically to illustrate the difference between being trans and being a girl who likes XYZ. I didn't expand on it, because it wasn't relevant to to the topic at hand.

The secret isn't about being born in the wrong body, it's about being genderqueer, which I've pretty consistently said I don't understand. So instead of just telling me what it's NOT about, how about explaining what it IS about. Unless you're going to dust off the old chestnut about it not being your job to educate people -- in which case, there's no point in carrying on a conversation with you.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-13 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer

What is it specifically that you don't understand? It's hard to know what to tell you when all you're repeating is that you don't understand, and that it's different from being trans when in principle, it isn't. That's why GQ falls under the T umbrella.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-13 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, per your link:

All that bulleted copy? Don't get it. I don't understand this idea of being both, neither, in between or creating a third gender just for you.

About the only instances of genderqueer in that whole entry that makes *sense* to me, are being trans but not necessarily feeling like you need to transition and the paragraph that amounts to bucking the norm when it comes to traditional gender stereotypes (though, I'm still not sure why we need a word for that second one ... all it seems to do is REINFORCE the wrong notion that that there's really only one way to be a boy or a girl).

(Anonymous) 2011-07-13 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
OHHHHH, I think I see what your problem is here. Your problem is your inability to comprehend or accept someone's existence outside the gender binary.

Dunno what's gonna fix that, so you should probably just walk away now.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-13 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Not appreciating the attitude, but I will end this conversation.

[identity profile] citrinesunset.livejournal.com 2011-07-13 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Both being trans and being genderqueer is more complicated than "being born in the wrong body." Amount of physical gender dysphoria can vary from person to person, and while in my experience genderqueer people are less likely to experience it to an extent where they feel the need or desire to transition, some do and some do undergo physical transition. I, personally, am seriously considering getting top surgery in the future.

[identity profile] bravenewdust.livejournal.com 2011-07-13 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
So is my best friend! He's poor, though, so if you could recommend any good docs or places to look, that would be fantastic. He'll be so much happier when the boobs are gone (he's genderqueer).

[identity profile] citrinesunset.livejournal.com 2011-07-13 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Afraid I can't personally recommend anyone since I'm not at that point yet. I've read up on a few surgeons to get an idea of who to contact, but mostly ones who seem to be fairly popular and well-known for the procedure, particularly Dr. Garramone in Florida. Cost is definitely one of my biggest concerns, though.

[livejournal.com profile] ftm has a lot of posts about top surgery and different surgeons. There's also [livejournal.com profile] genderqueer, which could be helpful, but I'm not sure because my request to join wasn't acknowledged, and I never got around to looking into it. I've found TransBucket (http://www.transbucket.com/) a bit helpful, too, though I don't think it's all-encompassing.