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⌈ Secret Post #1655 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Secret of NIMH/Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH]

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[Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle]

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[Homestuck]

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[Sailor Moon, Yu-Gi-Oh!]

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[True Grit]

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[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]

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[Pretty Little Liars]

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[I'm From Barcelona]

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[SJR]

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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]

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(Lindsay Ellis/Channel Awesome)

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[Teahouse]

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[HIM (band), Bam Margera]

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[Mahou Sensei Negima!]

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[Russell T. Davies]

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[Britney Spears]

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[Rome]

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[Channel Awesome/That Guy With the Glasses]

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[Voltron Force, Last Exile]

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[Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones]

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[Victorious]

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[Glee]

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[Eerie Cuties]

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[Last of the Summer Wine]

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[The League of Gentlemen]

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[Channel Awesome/That Guy With the Glasses]

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[Agora]

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[Doctor Who]

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[Hannah Murray]

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[Jem]

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[Florence + the Machine (Cosmic Love)]

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33. [ SPOILERS for Hanna (movie)]

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34. [ SPOILERS for Supernatural]

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35. [ SPOILERS for Scott Pilgrim (movie)]

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36. [ SPOILERS for Sheryl: Kiss in the Galaxy]

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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]

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38. [ TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[A:tLA]

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39. [ TRIGGER WARNING for incest]

[The Borgias]

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40. [ TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

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41. [ TRIGGER WARNING for domestic abuse]

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42. [ TRIGGER WARNING for incest]

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43. [ TRIGGER WARNING for stalking]

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44. [ TRIGGER WARNING for child sexual abuse ]

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Yeah. I skimmed about half of it before my half-digested lunch started scrambling for an exit.

I stopped shipping it due to the fanbase. JFC. I'm still ashamed I was ever one of them because ho-lee shite, the crazy. But the generally godsawful fic didn't help.

Yeah... the fanbase definitely didn't help to keep me in.

I just don't get it. There are about a hundred million pairings less irrational than Zutara, but have much better fic. Is it so hard to have fics that don't suck for a pairing with all kinds of (vaguely) canon justification?

Heh. I meant less rational. FAIL

The simple explanation? Like most fic for widely-beloved ships, Zutara fanfic doesn't need to be all that great to get praise because the ship is so ricockulously popular and the fanbase is not exactly discriminating. Slap anything together with that ship, and you'll get your gushing reviews and instant gratification. Fic for other ships needs to be good if the author wants people to even read it, nevermind be inspired to leave some feedback.

BTW, your icon is kind of awesome ♥

Edited 2011-07-16 01:51 (UTC)

That makes sense, ugh. Also, I'm going to start saying "ricockulously" from now on.

You should. It's a hilarious word XD

re: icon

Thank you! Speaking of awesome yet irrational ships. :D :D

I KNOW, RIGHT?

Jeebus. It's one of my fave crackships, right up there with Zuko/Hakoda ♥

Definitely my absolute favorite crackship. Weirdly, though, Zuko/Hakoda squicks me quite a bit, especially since I also ship Azulon/Hama and that pairing is nothing but squick...

Yeah, I know it isn't going to be everyone's cuppa, though I ship it mostly as a joke.

Azulon/Hamma...I'm not one to talk, since I've been toying with Ozai/Azula/slave!Katara...

That... is awesomely horrific. :D

Azulon/Hama is definitely an unusual thing for me. Most of my crackships are pretty fluffy, like Kuei/Yue...

Same. Most of my crackships are strictly for the lulz. But that...well...it's for something else. I occasionally love a hit of sick, twisted, totally fucked up hotness.

LOL...you are right. That icon is awesome!

It seems that anything that shows Zuko and Katara can be together (even if it is horribly OOC and makes no sense) is a winner in the fans' eyes. I always got the feeling that despite protestations to the contrary, "being canon" was extremely important. So important that every character, every rival ship, and every situation was twisted beyond belief.

I lost interest when I realized I was perfectly happy with them just being friends.

Yes. This, all of this. Don't even get me started on that finale rewrite project.

I lost interest when I realized it was three years later and people still couldn't get over their butthurt.

Wait, are people STILL trying to make the finale rewrite happen!?

As far as I know, yes.

~~Why did I ever ship this again?~~

Eurgh. I mean, I know most Zutarians aren't like that, buuut... wow. Just wow.

Yeah, not every Zutara fan is working on it, but enough of them are rooting for and cheering it on that I'm like "what the fuck is this I don't even."

That thing is still happening? Oh dear lord.

Fandom hurts my head.

I'm willing to share my Tylenol.

Fandom, why you so crazy?

This might call for something heavier.

Because fandom thinks it's right and knows all!

I don't think I have any Motrin 800 left. How do you feel about Jetko smut? Or even Zuko/Hakoda? Or other variously cracky Zuko ships that I have lying around in RP log form?

I'm okay with Jetko. I just don't ship Zuko that much because I"m not into the character. But I like Jetko. I have a few friends to blame for that interest. :D

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dorknessrising.livejournal.com - 2011-07-16 02:56 (UTC) - Expand

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dorknessrising.livejournal.com - 2011-07-16 03:03 (UTC) - Expand

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The simple explanation? Like most fic for widely-beloved ships, Zutara fanfic doesn't need to be all that great to get praise because the ship is so ricockulously popular and the fanbase is not exactly discriminating.

I've actually told people, if they want to get noticed, write Zutara. Don't bother to make it "good", because it won't even matter. Then I showed them the 1,000+ reviews "Stormbenders" has on ff.net, and dared them to find fic for another A:TLA pairing that even came close to getting that kind of acclaim (regardless of quality).

But in defense of Zutara fic, Kataang is half as popular, but the fics are just as bad.

You know, we get it. You don't ship it anymore, you hate the pairing like the fire of a thousand suns. But you keep generalizing about the shippers being batshit, and...really, it's only a handful of Z/K shippers that are that bad; the rest of us kind of just hang out in our own little corner and write/read/look at fanart.

I know you know this, too, because you knew some of the worst offenders and had them in your comm. So why do you keep denigrating the fans as a whole? It's kind of hurtful to hear you're "ashamed you were ever one" of the fanbase.

I don't deny that some Z/K shippers are over the top, but I don't let that ruin my fandom experience. It is what you make of it. *shrug*