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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-20 08:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #1660 ]

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Re: trigger warnings for discussion of weight(/loss), disordered eating

(Anonymous) 2011-07-21 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing to keep in mind is that 'what our body craves' doesn't necessarily mean what's good for it. You CAN get addicted to sugar, and you then CAN crave it. That doesn't mean you NEED it, it's like getting addiction pangs for smack. Would you tell a smack addict to just accept that smack is 'what their body needs'?

Beyond that, our bodies are programmed to crave fats and salts because historically (as in, for all of history before the last 100 years) these are the things that were the hardest to come by in foods. This is why we store fat and salt so much. Alternately, our diets used to be overloaded with certain vitamins - potassium for instance - that our bodies don't STORE potassium or even CRAVE potassium, and nowadays we have a large amount of people with potassium deficiencies. Your body doesn't necessarily overtly 'signal' to you when it needs potassium. You can't just say that giving your body the 'stuff it craves' is what is good or balanced for you at all.

While it's really great you're coming to terms with yourself, please don't spread untruths. The OP is losing weight and is HAPPY losing weight - and even moreso, if the OP feels BAD being heavier, trying to convince her that she should become OK with her weight instead of focusing on losing it is another way of trying to dictate how she should feel about her body. If someone is unhappy with their body, they are more than allowed to be as such and use it as an impetus to become someone they are truly happy being. Your comment reeks of trying to convince her that she shouldn't focus so much on her weight or losing it, when that's HER prerogative, not yours.

Re: trigger warnings for discussion of weight(/loss), disordered eating

[identity profile] oaktree89.livejournal.com 2011-07-21 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
My comment "reeks of trying to convince" someone of something? I'm "spreading untruths"?

I never claimed to be saying anything other than my own experience, which, inexplicably, you seem to have a problem with. If OP finds resonance in my original comment, great. If not, fine.

I recommend that you read this book (http://www.lindabacon.org/HAESbook/).

I also recommend that you not force false correlations between illicit substance abuse (which the body never needs) and the consumption of nutrients. If you don't smoke crack, you don't die. Guess what happens when you don't eat?

Re: trigger warnings for discussion of weight(/loss), disordered eating

(Anonymous) 2011-07-21 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you seriously trying to argue that there's no such thing as FOOD ADDICTION just because if we stop eating food we die? Do you really think that the CRITERIA for addiction is that if we need it to live, surely we can't become addicted, surely can't ever go OVERBOARD?

My point is that your body can and does become addicted to sugars and fats, there's been TONS of research on food and food addiction. Food addiction is the OTHER side of the coin inhabited by ED - anorexia, bulimia, etc. It's another form of an unhealthy relationship with food, and you're spreading an agenda that ignores and instead tries to legitimize food addiction as a 'live and let live' mentality, instead enabling overeaters.

Re: trigger warnings for discussion of weight(/loss), disordered eating

[identity profile] oaktree89.livejournal.com 2011-07-21 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you seriously trying to argue that there's no such thing as FOOD ADDICTION just because if we stop eating food we die? Do you really think that the CRITERIA for addiction is that if we need it to live, surely we can't become addicted, surely can't ever go OVERBOARD?
No, I'm not, and no, I don't.

Your point is obvious. I stated in my above comment (you know, the one you excoriated) that I have struggled with binge eating for most of my life. I actually do know what I'm talking about, regardless of what you'd like to believe.

These issues are different for everyone, and I can only speak from my personal experience. However, I thought I would share some of my experiences and observations from my life, since I find that it's often nice to hear about others' struggles, even if they are somewhat different from my own.

I don't have "an agenda". I have experiences and a personal philosophy about eating healthfully and wisely that I felt were appropriate to share.

If you have a problem with this, well. I don't know what to say.

Re: trigger warnings for discussion of weight(/loss), disordered eating

(Anonymous) 2011-07-21 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, my original comment was censuring you because the reason you were sharing your 'experience' was because you wanted to expose the OP to the Fat Acceptance movement, which is another way of trying to dictate to people how they should live their lives. Not all of us overweight and formerly overweight people AGREE with FA, and in fact personally I find it can be damaging if taken too far because it can be permissive of food addictions.