[ SECRET POST #1680 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1680 ⌋


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Comments

[xerxes92.livejournal.com]

I don't think you understand what they were talking about. There was an article saying that the dark knight was pro-bush propoganda, and pretty much tried to justify things the bush administration has done to stop terrorists, like wire tapping without a warrant and torture. I think you're mistaken in thinking that the Joker is representing the US, when in fact he's the one representing terrorism and Batman is the one representing the US. The fact the the Joker has nothing political to gain and just wants chaos only strengthens the point they were trying to make(?) by painting the terrorists in an even worse light than they've already given themselves.

Also, you need to keep in mind that the writers pointing out a political subtext they intentionally made would be bad for the movie. If they did intentially make this movie pro-war-on-terrorism they would not want to point that out.

I don't really know wheather the symbolism was intentional or not, but it's definitely there. It's still an enjoyable movie regardless IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

Not disagreeing with you about possible subtext, just wanted to say that if by justifying torture you're referring to the scene where the Joker goads Batman into beating him up, I don't think we're supposed to read it as good and righteous, since that was what the Joker wanted him to do, which was abandon his principles. And I don't remember this part of the movie all that well, but although the surveillance thing works, doesn't Lucius shut it down because he feels terrible about it? I don't think the movie was supporting any of that stuff.

[xerxes92.livejournal.com]

I wasn't actually sure about the torture thing. It's been a really long time since I've seen the Dark Knight and I couldn't remember if there was any torture or not.