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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-09 08:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #1680 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1680 ⌋


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[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-08-10 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
But, say, a man singing a song about being in love with a woman? How on earth is that sexist or homophobic?

It's not. But why add in mention of her gender when the song is otherwise doing fine without it?

PRIME EXAMPLE that just rolled up on my iPod: Michael Buble's version of "Fever."

Seriously, was that "chicks" line necessary? I'm going to say HELL NO.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-10 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Because the song is about a woman that he's in love with? I truly don't know why this needs any other answer. It's not about you. It's not about who you're in love with. It's not about who any other listener is in love with. It's about who the songwriter is in love with. (I'm speaking about the vague "man writes a song about a woman" hypothetical here, not Michael Buble. I haven't heard that song and don't know anything about it)

(Anonymous) 2011-08-10 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
It's about who the songwriter is in love with.
The hell it is. Do you really think all songwriters write solely about their own personal experiences? I, for one, highly doubt it. In fic, I'm able to write two gay men falling in love, even though I'm a straight woman. I've written poetry about things I've never personally dealt with or seen. I've drawn pictures of things that have no emotional meaning to me. It seems songwriters must be incredibly limited and talentless if they can only write about things they personally know or feel.

Nothing's stopping anyone from writing a song about anyone or anything - what drives songwriting choices in many cases, like anything else, is what the people involved think they can make money off of. And more often than not, that would be straight-friendly songs that don't offend radio advertisers and appeal to the broadest audience possible. If making a song straight-friendly requires throwing an entirely pointless "girl" into an otherwise neutral song lyric, so be it.

Different Anon

(Anonymous) 2011-08-10 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Using your rules, in that song he shouldn't say "When you put your arms around me" because there are people who love one armed people and that excludes them from the song. It would be more inclusive if there was no mention of any body parts.
Any time a song mentions arms, lips, eyes, sex, beauty, intelligence, or any other damn physical or mental attribute someone is excluded. If you think a song inserts in characteristics poorly, don't give money to that artist.