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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-16 07:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #1687 ]

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] helenadax.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Imagine that, people having different opinions! I'm shocked!

[identity profile] stepstostars.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE, EVERYONE MUST ASSIMILATECONFORM.

Resistance is futile.

(but yeah, seriously OP, there are favorites in every fandom, life will go on.)

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
The thing is, OP, that different people find different things interesting in a character. The things that you find so compelling about Voldemort and Dumbledore, I probably think about Draco and Snape. If I'm honest, I hate Batman too, so comparing him to a piece of shit is, in my case, very apt.

[identity profile] danaphilip.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Well Batman is shit, so I don't really know where you're going with this.

[identity profile] royaleconqueso.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Agree

[identity profile] intoalkaseltzer.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
lol Batman? what?

anyways, not every person who likes snape and draco thinks all of the other characters are boring. it's not zero-sum.

[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Now the only thing I can think about is a literal comparison of a piece of shit to batman: they're both dark, and tend to be found in alleyways, but I bet Batman smells marginally better, so I think he's got the edge.

[identity profile] ionizable.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
i dunno, all that skintight leather and plastic hardly seems like material that would let the skin breathe. between saving the day and wrestling with his inner demons, all that sweat must just collect and make him reek

[identity profile] silvereriena.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Out of the four mentioned, I prefer Draco and Dumbledore! Alliterative pairs, woohoo!

[identity profile] robintheshrew.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think Draco is interesting at all. Every move he made was predictable. And Snape was quite interesting. But Dumbledore's life and family are so interesting, and Voldemort? My god, you could write a book on just his early life and rise to power.
tl;dr I agree lol

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[identity profile] biodamper.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Voldy was a cardboard cut-out villain; Rowling fucked up big time on him.

[identity profile] youtoxic.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Well...I love Snape, so w/e.

BUT I would pick Dumbledore and Voldemort over Draco any day of the week, so I sort of...half agree?

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/___flight_risk/ 2011-08-17 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, sorry, but anyone who does even a little bit of research will realize that SS - for better or worse - is the most discussed HP character.

Your opinion doesn't really matter in the face of facts.

[identity profile] la-petite-singe.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
LMAO @ the last line. I'm gonna start saying that.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Draco, complex? That little shit?

HAHAHAAHAHAHA

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
As much as I love the HP books I don't really find any of the characters to be overly complex. Snape has layers of complexity and Dumbledore certainly had many secrets, but neither Draco nor Voldemort were particularly complex. When we start to see more of Voldemort's past in book 6 it's revealed that he had sociopathic tendencies from a young age. He doesn't really change and isn't anything more than the ultimate evil in the world. It seems pointless to argue about complexity when there's little to be had.

[identity profile] uponadecember.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
I don't find any of them that interesting to be honest.

Draco: Interesting, but predictable.
Snape: Interesting, but it gets old fast.
Voldemort: Has the dimensions of a cardboard cut-out. The end.
Dumbledore: Good potential, but he was written as nothing but a Deus Ex Machina (yes, I did rest the last few books).

Some of them are more likable than others (YMMV really), but I never saw any as complex.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
...&, see, I think Voldemort's one of the most boring characters in the series, and indeed one of the most boring villains ever to plague an otherwise awesome plot. :| "My young childhood sucked a lot, so from an early age I figured I might as well be outrageously evil. My evil motives of choice are megalomania and magical racism, both of which I express with all the subtlety of a block of cement. But the Power of Love can thwart me in the end!" Come onnnnn.

--then again, you can rarely expect interesting, complex villains in a series that for the most part tends to stay pretty morally black-and-white. Snape--and the Malfoys, kinda--interest people because they're some of the few characters living in a gray area, I think. But they're not enough to shake up the system. I mean, these are the books where the main character goes to a school that has an entire house for People Who Will Grow Up to Be Evil.
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[identity profile] murderershair.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think any of them are particularly complex on the page. Interesting, sure, definitely. People have different opinions, cause people have different headcanons about characters.

[identity profile] mistaria.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
People think Draco is one of the most complex/interesting characters in HP? JKR barely gives him any character development at all from what I recall. o_o ::is jumped on by rabid Draco fangirls::

And totally feel free to correct me fandom peeps and please be nice, I am not trying to be rude to Draco fans I just don't think he's a complex character because his motivations/etc. are very easy to figure out/understand and he is a spoiled only child (meaning he doesn't have some complex dark past like Snape/Voldemort/Dumbles).
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[identity profile] pet-lunatic.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
I agree about Dumbledore - by far the most interesting, complex, and believable character in the series, IMO. If JKR writes more books in the Potterverse I would hugely prefer Dumbledore's life to be explored rather than a rehash of the same stories with Harry et al's kids. His backstory deserves a book series of its own, and I'd love to see more of Aberforth and Grindelwald.

[identity profile] hells-hikari.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
Well, as all the others said, different opinions. I think Draco, Snape and Dumbledore (especially his past) are interesting. Voldemort not so much.

But you know, finding them interesting does not mean that I don't think that McGonagall is interesting too.

IDK if you're deriving this from personal experience, if you've noticed this trend in HP fandom (because honestly, I don't know anything about HP fandom), but it seems as if you're saying that somehow, being interested in Draco and Snape means you don't care about those two other characters.

It's all about relating and maybe the headcanon possibly everybody develops while reading that influences this, and I think it's unfair to say that somebody reads the series wrong because of such trivial things.

[identity profile] angary.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with you on Dumbledore, but not so much Voldemort. He's always come off as 1.5-dimensional to me, really. And the same goes with Draco and Snape. Like, even though I've never liked Snape nor thought about him too much (except after Book 6 came out), I can see the argument for him being one of the most layered/interesting characters. I will, on the other hand, never really get the Draco hype.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Ginny Weasley is far from the most complex or interesting character, but you don't see me complaining about her annoying white-knight fanbase.

She's not even written well but her defenders are insane.

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