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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-20 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #1691 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1691 ⌋


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[identity profile] joshua-glass.livejournal.com 2011-08-21 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
But Ethan Hawke's character wasn't cured of his potential genetic disorders, he was judged by them. The thought that he might not live past 35 or might have a heart condition was what disqualified him from doing what he wanted with his life.

I'm not saying we shouldn't work towards eradicating diseases (genetic and otherwise), just that judging someone's future potential based on 'maybes' is never a good thing in my books.

[identity profile] stepstostars.livejournal.com 2011-08-21 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
iirc, there was a 95% chance he would have a heart disorder. I'd think that would be a legitimate concern for his safety.

I mean, yes, he was willing to give his life for his dream, but how many parents would allow their children throw away their lives needlessly? How many people would allow someone a chance at something if they only had a 5% chance they could complete it? How many people are near suicidal enough to reach for something that might kill them?

I understand how it might seem kind of horrible to judge someone based on a chance, but I feel like knowing that you have an extremely high chance of X, (and yes, you will possibly be judged for it), is better than flailing around in the dark.

tl;dr: Yes, the movie does bring up some ethical concerns, but the discrimination in the movie is for pretty legitimate reasons + the upsides of genetic engineering outweigh the downsides (in my opinion, at least.)

(sorry, deleted because I wanted to correct something >>)

[identity profile] joshua-glass.livejournal.com 2011-08-21 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I totally understand what you mean, and yeah there aren't a lot of parents that would let their kid do something with such a small chance of success (if not succeeding = dying), but it just bothers me that a great deal of people who are behind this sort of genetic... selection I guess is the word, wouldn't be doing it for someone's personal welfare, but to breed out what they deem "unworthy" traits, and I think that's what worries me the most.

Or maybe I'm just too cynical. XD

[identity profile] stepstostars.livejournal.com 2011-08-21 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, yeah I can understand where the concern for genetic engineering/selection/etc. could come from, it's just that I've seen so many poorly argued "AHH, SCIENCE = BABADHORRIBLE" arguments, aggh.

Any power that can do good can also do harm, but it just seems people won't even allow research into these subjects because of that tiny possibility of the worst-case scenario shown in movies/books/etc. o__x;

[identity profile] joshua-glass.livejournal.com 2011-08-21 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe we can bribe them with chocolate to have common sense when it comes to genetic selection? XD

But yeah, I am all for curing things. Coming from someone who has maybe a handful of working organs, fixing genetic issues would be awesome. XD

[identity profile] stepstostars.livejournal.com 2011-08-21 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
CHOCOLATE.

Everyone loves chocolate, I dig that plan.

Haha, oh, man, yeah, I can see how that would be extremely helpful. Unfortunately, we don't even know what half our genes do~ and they're extremely complicated and do not want to be solved. >>;

I'm sorry, but I don't have a happy icon yet. But Patrick Stewart in pink works, riight?

[identity profile] joshua-glass.livejournal.com 2011-08-21 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Chocolaaate~. Even I love it, and I'm allergic. XD

It's honestly amazing how even seemingly simple organisms have such complex genes. It'd probably be long past our time before we finish mapping them. :/

[identity profile] stepstostars.livejournal.com 2011-08-21 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
D: Allergic to chocolate? Aw, well, nutella ftw, right? <3

Haha, well, I do believe that just sequencing DNA is relatively easy (with PCR and better technology now), figuring out what they do. Then, well, we're screwed :D; especially because sometimes a combination of genes code for a single trait (stupid trolling genes), and most of our DNA is...trash/useless, pretty much. (:

yaay, everyone loves Patrick Stewart pink!