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fandomsecrets2011-08-20 04:00 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-08-20 04:00 pm
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 314 secrets from Secret Submission Post #242.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ]
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If I remember correctly, the set up with the movie [and honestly, how I see it going down in RL] most of the people who had their genetics modified had it down before birth - presumably paid for, since the doctor basically sold it as a 'You don't have to, but don't you want the best baby you can have?' speech. Which leaves the people who, for whatever reason [Parents couldn't afford it/it wasn't available for whatever reason] with being inferior genetically - and thus being in the lower caste, who's stuck with janitorial level jobs, regardless of their other abilities. Iirc, Ethan even said that it had split society into two classes, and that if you were the 'genetic inferior' class you were stuck there for life, no way out.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think the movie was arguing against using genetic manipulation in and of itself, but more warning against the possible social consequences that could come with it, and impact society negatively. But again, that's just my opinion.
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I understand how it could become a genetically modified vs. genetically inferior world, but I don't think that any of the genetically inferior were ever modified in general. iirc, the doctor gave the speech because they wanted "to leave something to chance" made me think that genetic modification was relatively cheap or government supplied, considering how widespread it is.
The discrimination against "invalids" is pretty disgusting, but (this isn't a justification, I realize) we do this everyday already when we have our clothes made by cheap labor in China instead of making them ourselves, or have our food picked by migrant workers. But the genetically modified are supposed to be better (at least physically, I believe), and it seems a relatively natural process of being better --> better jobs, though it is comes off as discrimination. People want to hire the better candidates, which the "valids" seem to be (in general).
It could very well be that however intelligent/skilled you are is based off of how much money you spend, like how Jerome/Jude Law had wonderful genes vs. others, but I remember how the doctor was basically saying, "We're just choosing the best of each [parent]." (I haven't watched in forever, so I might be wrong.) I also think it's relatively far-fetched to think that your intelligence/work ethic/etc. could be based solely off genetics alone, considering how complicated it is to understand already.
But I digress; yes, the movie was arguing that genetic manipulation was wrong, but I found that I disagreed. You want your child to have the very best start he/she can have, you want him/her to be the very best that you yourself can provide (in terms of genetic material.)
tl;dr: the movie is pretty vague about who the valids and invalids are, how readily accessible the technology for genetic manipulation is, and just what genetics can really decide for you in your life. From what I remember, however, it does seem pretty accessible to most people and yes, discrimination sucks, but it's happens no matter what/as long as differences still exist.