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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-14 07:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #1716 ]

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[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2011-09-15 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Who knows? I just feel like it's too much like label policing to say that a group of people can't self-identify because XYZ. I mean, I'd understand if XYZ was offensive in a way that didn't require a leap of logic (i.e. beatingpeopleupsexual), but...

(Anonymous) 2011-09-15 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
You think it requires a leap of logic. For a lot of the rest of us, it's very obvious. I think you're just too close to the issue to be able to see it.

Demisexuality is the normative position. Sex outside of a committed relationship is considered deviant. By putting an additional label on the normative position, demisexuality is reinforcing the systematic oppression of all non-demisexuals.

Here's another analogy: say there is a mixed-gender population, men and women with a variety of interests and abilities. Then a group of the CIS-men form a group called The Andras Men. The Andras Men state that their group is a group of men who are tough, who don't cry, who fix things, and all the other stereotypes of masculinity. "But we don't think all those other men are pussies!" they say. "There's nothing wrong with being girly, and we think calling somebody a wimp or a girl just because they aren't like us is a bad thing. Really."

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2011-09-15 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
How much of the "rest of you" (besides 2/3?) anon's are pissed off by the OP's stupid use of the word "slut", though? >_>

"Demisexuality is the normative position. Sex outside of a committed relationship is considered deviant. By putting an additional label on the normative position, demisexuality is reinforcing the systematic oppression of all non-demisexuals."

No, it isn't. Maybe wanting to have sex with the bond included is the normative position. But physically needing a bond with someone to even think about performing in a sexual manner, be it masterbation or sex isn't the normative position.

I think the issue is this: You think that being demisexual is a choice of someones, as seen by your anology wherein the group of Andras Men choose to form a group, whereas I believe that there is not enough evidence to discount the idea of demisexuality being one more variation of normal sexuality, and thereby not a choice.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-15 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not think it is a choice to need that additional connection in order to become sexually aroused. I do think it is a choice to believe that this makes you somehow different from everyone else.

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2011-09-15 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Then we have nothing more to say to each other as we are never going to agree.