[ SECRET POST #1719 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1719 ⌋


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Comments

[blackjackrocket.livejournal.com]

Again I question the use of "your system" in reference to how I said things should have gone. I didn't invent that system, ergo it isn't mine. It wouldn't even be the first time it was used in a Serebii fic contest, as I was suggesting things run the way they had the year before.

You know, comparing it to characters makes sense. One of the reasons I identify with Cyrus is that he clearly HAS emotions, and very strong ones, no matter how much he tries to present himself as neutral all the time, and I think that's how I come off to people, like they think I can't be rational no matter how much I try to present myself as such. Like no matter how much I try, I can't hide them.

Haha yeah, I tell ya, a lot of people on Bulbagarden try to get away with using AS as an out for shit behavior, but they don't realize that something like 50% of the mod staff has AS and doesn't tolerate bullshit. But fortunately, we don't assume that they're lying, just that they're being asshats. I think a lot of that is the age of most of the members. They think that it's a valid shield, and have to learn that we're not going to tolerate it being used as such.

[(Anonymous)]

Bad choice of words, really. I didn't mean to imply/outright state that the system started with you (because I remember you bringing up in the thread that that was how it worked in 2008, iirc); I was just categorizing it as "the system you're proposing, as opposed to the one Butler was proposing." In other words, I just couldn't think of a way to label it as different from the system Butler had at the time without getting too wordy, especially since Butler's system was used in 2009, I do believe. Or it might have been the other way around, with yours being used in 2009 and his being based on the one done in 2008. I'm honestly too lazy to go look it up and get the dates right, but I know that at one point before Butler ran the event, we did have nominations start at the tail end of the eligibility period. And then we extended it like all hell. Point is, calling one "old" and the other "new" wouldn't entirely work because they were both technically old. Maybe one "newer" and the other "original"?

Also, awesome that the comparison didn't fall flat. Honestly, if there's any fictional character I associate with you, it's Cyrus for the exact reason you brought up. I'm not sure if it's because I've seen a lot of your character on dear_mun and a lot of your analysis pop up on forums, but I've only really been able to see him as trying his hardest to act on rationality. But he clearly has emotions on some level too because of the point of Team Galactic. As far as I know in the games, he doesn't really cite specific examples as to why the world that already existed is a piece of crap and why he needs to go create a new one for him to shape. I just always thought he was secretly immensely frustrated with everything to the point where he just couldn't handle the reality that he already had. But I may just be pulling things out of nowhere because I also have a tendency to mix canon up and because I haven't yet played Platinum. (I know you don't like the anime's take on Cyrus, but I have to say I actually found it interesting how he insisted to his subordinates that they shouldn't fight because that's an act of anger. That might be one of the wildly OOC parts you found, but that particular bit was what really made me say, "Yeah, this is BJR.")

You have a good point about it being age and how kids like that just need to learn that AS doesn't mean "free pass at being an asshat." I'm a bit leery, though, at the people who claim they're eighteen or older doing it, especially if they've been to other forums. Of course, they still might not be lying about being an Aspie or autistic on any other level, but still.

[blackjackrocket.livejournal.com]

Perhaps, or "the original system" and "Butler's system", since he was really the one doing it.

Yeah, the whole point is basically out of a really twisted altruism, like "you all have fucked it up, now stand aside, I won't let you fuck things up any more". And insofar as motivation, he talks a lot about strife, which I know is vague but gives the implication that he wants to end suffering (especially his bizarre pacifism that you mentioned. And no, that was one of the far more in-keeping-with-the-games moments. It's mostly the ending that made it wildly OOC, especially since "going off somewhere alone" is something he says pretty much word for word that he'll NEVER do in the games). There's also a lot of frustration, at a variety of things. His backstory, which we get in Pt, is pretty simple but it's easy to see how it could lead to where it did--he was a genius child but his parents were never pleased, so he retreated emotionally and took to machinery. Basically, logical things that could be rebuilt, and that he could control.

Then there's the non-canon-but-plausable idea that, since Sunyshore (his hometown) is based on a town that was almost wiped out in WW2, so depending on how close to the real world you want to think things are, he would have grown up with that having happened in his grandfather's time (and according to Pt, his grandfather seems to be the only person in his family who cared for him).

Blaaah I go on and on when prompted. I don't really have any war destruction in my history but I do have extreme pressure to succeed. Basically when I was young I had the grades to be in honors classes but no administration would let me because of my behavior issues, so I had to basically keep everything under wraps and remain beyond reproach (it...didn't exactly work, but I did manage to get into honors classes eventually). So to me, people were basically keeping me out of classes for no reason, because to me my reactions were entirely logical. As my reactions now are. People give me shit, I fight back. Do they expect me to sit there and take it? Did they ever?

Yargle I've blabbed so much.