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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-19 08:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #1721 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1721 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2011-09-20 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
every single life threatening situation and war in the history of human civilisation. Ever.

You're a 'tard for even asking that question.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-20 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
da

i don't think "everything ever" counts as a citation, but whatever.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-20 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Statistics? Facts? Any numbers whatsoever showing an increase in birth rate in nations at war time? I can find those numbers, but all they show is an increase in birth rate several years after wars. This is a well-documented phenomenon.

Whereas during wars there is a resource crunch, as well as heavy segregation of the sexes, a dearth of available young men, etc., etc. - many factors that work against an increased rate of pregnancy.

So... You actually got anything to back up this claim or are you pulling it completely out of your ass? Because right now it sure looks like you are.

DA

(Anonymous) 2011-09-20 10:24 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have statistics either, but I'm tempted to argue that the type of baby-boom you're describing corresponds to wars "away". People can't make babies because the available young men are away from home (not always very far, but too much to go back home to sleep). The wizarding war happens in the middle of normal life and get mixed with it, so I'd go with the first anon's argument that the war messed the way people would usually deal with having babies.
The urgency of everything, the feeling that you have to grab every crumb of happiness that you can get your hands on because you don't know when it'll stop, and even, maybe, the (more or less conscious) idea that you have to outnumber/outlive the bad guys... all of this could make you not want to correct the accident that's giving you a baby.

I do believe that this was selfish from Lupin & Tonks, but having a baby always is, to me.

(English in the morning... sorry u_u
Here, have a lullaby (http://youtu.be/IS6fC1K-Nko) )

Re: DA

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-09-20 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The anon posted this link below, I'm sure they won't mind if I borrow it:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC162548

It applies to all wars, actually, both home and abroad. I'm sure people are having plenty of sex, but you can do that without getting pregnant, eh? But resources are scarce, stable paternity is impossible to guarantee, and PTSD (which a huge number of the soldiers and many of the civilians are going to have, untreated) kills sex drive. People relate a war to other life and death experiences, I think, with the single heady adrenaline surge and the sense of immediate kinship to the other survivors around them.

War isn't like that. Read the autobiographies of soldiers from WWI and WWII - war is mostly waiting, dreading, and losing friends. It isn't very sexy at all.

Of course instances of rape rise considerably, but in developed nations so do corresponding abortion rates, so it doesn't have much impact on fertility.

(And thanks for the lullaby!)

(Anonymous) 2011-09-20 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Different anon

And? Do you have any sources to back up your original claim? The other anon punched a pretty big hole in your theory (baby booms after wars, not during), and there is no reason to go around calling people 'retard' (yes, I know you said 'tard, but that's just a shorting of the word).