[ SECRET POST #1721 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1721 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 168 secrets from Secret Submission Post #246.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 (triggery) - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ], [ 1 - personal attack ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: N!S

[kallanda-lee.livejournal.com]

I think these secrets keep popping up because the fandom did rage(and still rages) about how awful Spike was.And yes, he was pretty awful to her in that scene, but he also *stopped himself and was disgusted enough to go and get his soul back*.

While Buffy, who was supposed to be the best of the good guys, pretty much did treat him like crap and didn't really get called on it.

While people were mad about "troll" Whedon for putting in the attempted rape scene, I can totally see why he would. It was a destructive relationship from get-go and I thought the escalation had been a long time coming.

As for Spike being able to stop her: he probably would be able to, physically, but psychologically he might not. The same argument could have been made for him assaulting Buffy. Buffy is fucking *strong* - she could have snapped him in two. Why didn't she? I'd wager because in (mutual) abuse there is also a very strong psychological factor.

Re: N!S

[(Anonymous)]

In the scene she'd been hit by a car or something recently, so wasn't at full capacity. During the first half of the scene she was hobbling around the bathroom wincing if I recall correctly.

Re: N!S

[kallanda-lee.livejournal.com]

It's been a while, so forgive me. The point I was trying to make is that often abuse is as much a psychological thing as it is a physical one. And I believe that Buffy definitely was psychologically abusive.

That does not make Spike's actions right - but it seems, years down the line, that one scene is all that is remembered, and the mutually exploitative relationship that has gone before it for many episodes seems easily forgotten. And I feel that one scene is very much the cumulation of that relationship.