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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-21 07:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1753 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1753 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Secret of Kells]


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[Shortpacked/Strangers With Candy]


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[Ricky Gervais]


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[Marshall Eriksen]


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[Lady Gaga/Tony Bennett]


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[ThouShaltNot]


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[Russell Howard and Jon Richardson]


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[Queer as Folk]


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[Thor]


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[Blacksad]


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[The Iron Giant]


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[Dragon Age 2]


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[Fringe]


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[Monster High]


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[Tropic Thunder fake trailer]


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[Doctor Who]


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[Kane chronicles]


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[BBC Sherlock]


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[Spaced]


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(Transformers: Prime)


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43. [SPOILERS for Gears of War 3]



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48. [SPOILERS for Marvel (X-Factor, Avengers)]



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50. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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51. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse]



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52. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual assault]



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53. [TRIGGER WARNING for gore]



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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2011-10-22 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
The thing about Harry living and the whole part at the end is different though. It's important, but it's easy to miss so I can see how so many people don't get it.

The difference between Lily specifically and all the other people who might have gotten between their loved ones and the end of a wand was that she didn't have to die. She was given the chance to live. ("Stand aside...stand aside, girl.") Previously, it's easy to guess that Voldemort simply killed everyone. Lily was given the chance to live because Snape asked for her. She was in fact a special case.

Voldemort never gets this either. Right at the end he offers Harry the chance to live himself--to either run off and let him kill everyone in the castle, or to walk into the woods and sacrifice himself. Even if Harry hadn't come back, he wouldn't have been able to touch the defenders after that.

It's not just self-sacrifice--the person has to be offered the explicit choice as to whether they live or die, and choose to die to save the other person/people involved. (There's some fan speculation Grindelwald tried to do this for Dumbledore, in fact.)

This sadly also means that unless there was a Death Eater Voldemort favoured who was in love with Alice Longbottom, the Neville as Chosen One AU isn't really viable...not going off the canon interpretation of the prophecy, anyway.

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[identity profile] kyogres.livejournal.com 2011-10-22 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. That makes more sense.

I'm still not sure I buy into it--I can see why the circumstances are special now, but not necessarily why the special circumstances would make a difference in the end--but at least now I can see what Rowling was trying to do.

I was never really a fan of Chosen One Neville AUs, but that's probably because Neville is portrayed as a spoiled brat in all the ones I've run across.