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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-22 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #1754 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1754 ⌋


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[identity profile] fearless-rabbit.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
And I'm not trying to argue against that? Assuming you know what a real person's sex life is like is gross and entitled.

But it's also kind of weird to assume that no, someone in a long term hetero relationship has to be 100% straight, or that bearding is something that never happens anymore. Again, not familiar with these guys, and they are most likely not bearding... but show biz can be a very heteronormative place, and dismissing the idea that bearding still happens because we're oh so progressive now! isn't much better.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Except nobody here was dismissing bearding as never happening these days. All they were saying is that in this specific situation, it's highly unlikely and the fans insisting that it's happening when they do not know anything about these actors except what they see filtered through the media is really, really creepy. You barging in and explaining bearding as if it's our first day in Queer Theory 101 is condescending as hell.

[identity profile] fearless-rabbit.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The anon I was responding to said upthread (pretty sure it was the same person) that because Quinto came out, nobody would want to have a beard anymore. Also that it would take a mass conspiracy for a gay guy to marry a lady.

If it's condescending to explain to that person how bearding works, then I don't wanna be right~

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, no, that isn't what they said at all. Here, in case you don't want to go searching for it (emphasis mine):

No, I'm not saying that; clearly there are still more than a few, and if they want to come out, that's worthy of respect and admiration.

But if J&J were really following the tinhat script, then they'd be enlisting dozens of people--including their wives and children--in a massive bearding plot for the purpose of appeasing homophobic fans of a moderately popular TV show...and somehow we're supposed to cluck with sympathy over the injustice (to them) of it all.


What anon was saying is that according to the tinhats for this specific situation (which since you're not in the fandom, you probably glossed over that part), it is a massive bearding conspiracy and SPN and the network's entire PR staff is in on it.

If by your own admission you don't know jack about this specific instance, then please shut up and stop acting as if you do.

[identity profile] fearless-rabbit.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been following the wank and I know the tinhats have some elaborate conspiracy about it. It is the very most entertaining wank. And if you haven't noticed I DON'T THINK THE TINHATS ARE RIGHT.

I JUST AM KIND OF UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE "OBVIOUSLY HET RELATIONSHIPS MAKE THESE DUDES STRAIGHT" SIDE LORDING IT OVER THE "MAYBE THEY COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE" SIDE. I don't have any issue with "these people are creepers." What I've seen of people complaining about the creepers is that lol obvious straight guys are straight and THAT IS WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. See: THE ACTUAL SECRET.

Or maybe I'm just being pointlessly antagonistic today. I am kind of a bitch.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's the latter, because nobody you replied to in this thread was taking that stance. At all. Nor did they say anything suggesting such. Only that speculating to the degree the tinhats are and coming up with conspiracy theories worthy of the worst Oliver Stone film ever is both creepy as hell and fucking annoying.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I know I came off like kind of a bitch, too. Sometimes I think [livejournal.com profile] technophile slips shit in the water every now and then.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry babe, but if you stayed in the Supernatural fandom since S4, you're pretty much automatically a creep. Self-awareness fail on your part imo