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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-23 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1755 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1755 ⌋


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[identity profile] eerised-da.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course you can rage over it, that's really not the point. The point is that he was a kid and expecting the same things of a child--abused and neglected, no less--is kind of ridiculous.

And that's perfectly fine that you don't want to, but you did in reading the books. Harry wasn't all luck, just lots of luck. You say he didn't take initiative, but he did. Consistently he was the one running off to save the school and its inhabitants from danger. Maybe he wasn't the best student, maybe he wasn't ever going to be the most powerful wizard. Maybe he was just a lucky kid who had a bit of bad luck in being marked by Voldemort, but still made the most of his life.

[identity profile] fierceawakening.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I don't know that I think Rowling is a master of trauma writing (I don't think that's what she meant to be doing, though) but from my own experiences it's quite normal to rageflail at stupid shit and only realize later what you're really upset about.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
This, exactly! People should be able to write what they want. That doesn't mean we can't be disappointed and frustrated.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
But even fandoms with equal or more important female characters than males still write more men than women.

[identity profile] eerised-da.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree. Relevancy does not mean throwing it in everyone's face. Sometimes subtlety works too. And because everyone reacts to trauma differently, Harry reacting to his as he did worked. He live his entire life abused and neglected, so why can't his coping mechanism be to ignore it as best he can and always look on the bright side? Why can't the best way for him to get by be to be really positive. Not everyone becomes bitter and horrid because they suffer abuse, not ever abuse person becomes an abuser or sits around being the victim and hating life.

Yes, it's a story, but stories should still mimic real life. If one abused kid decides to ignore the abuse--especially when there isn't anyone out there to save him from him--that doesn't mean he isn't still damaged by it. And again, get hung up on how he looks. He's tiny for his age for most of the books because of being forced to live in a cupboard and not fed well enough, a sign of his malnutrition and neglect even if no one pays attention to it.

All of his baggage makes itself known subtly until the fifth book when he's raging all the time. That wasn't just a product of Cedric's death.

Either way, look at it how you want, but I disagree.

[identity profile] eerised-da.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
1) I have trouble believing that.
2) We can just agree to disagree on this.
3) That's true, I didn't mean to shame. I was just caught up in the heat of the argument. Sorry!

[identity profile] eerised-da.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
And we're countering with "he's a kid", "he's an abused child", "this is how he copes with shit". Serious things like this shouldn't be put off, but that doesn't mean people don't put them off.

Re: Numbered lists keep me from exploding.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow you're a fucking moron.
Kindly get yourself killed.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Men in general or m/m?

[identity profile] nachekana.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm actually more annoyed about the fact that Jamie Bell and Daniel Craig are in a movie together and I WON'T GET TO SEE THEIR FACES. So, yeah, not going to see it if all I'm going to get out of it is frustration at hearing their voices and not getting the whole package.

[identity profile] nezhit.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
what I love about the picture is how no one tries to use the opposite direction lane even when faced with a death threat. eu/na civilisation is really doomed if anything out of order suddenly happens :)

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I know. Hence my rage LOL. I really enjoyed the HP books, mostly because the characters make me rage so much.

Re: Numbered lists keep me from exploding.

[identity profile] raichu100.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You need to shut up.

Okay, no.

[identity profile] raichu100.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care what the context is, what the person has said/done, it is NEVER OKAY to tell someone to kill themselves. Period.

[identity profile] raichu100.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay. Then I guess I don't really understand the point of your original comment, unless it was just to complain about the world not being the way you want it to be. (This is not meant as an insult; I do this myself sometimes.)

I wasn't trying to be passive-aggressive, so I'm sorry if I can across that way. I was just trying to illustrate that I felt you were doing a lot of finger-pointing.

[identity profile] spookyfbi.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
*coughspluter* WHAT?!?!

...would it be incredibly shallow of me to hope that this bodes well for K/S in the sequels?

[identity profile] bellerose11788.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I chose those to specify fandoms that have a large slash fandom mostly because i am sick of the victim attitude. They are not being oppressed or anything. Futhermore, The het ships in HP and Bleach usually only fight with each other, and have no problem with the slash ships in the fandom.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Do show me where the poor Bleach or Harry Potter slashers are whining about being oppressed by hetters because I haven't seen it anywhere.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope, I just think their relationship with their wives is too adorable. I ship a lot of old folks (Up, Cranford, Harry Potter). Age isn't relevant, it's all about who would be cutest together.

Also if Colin Firth is considered ewww old people already I think I'm going to have a small cry.

[identity profile] twenty-rooks.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
This is pretty much what I think too. Maybe they're just clinging to the remnants of their previous lives and things will change as the story unfolds.

[identity profile] hikari87.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That's right, I forgot about that! Knowing him he's probably really deep in denial though lol

[identity profile] yukinoomoni.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
That's probably true.

[identity profile] bellerose11788.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I was complaing about the OP putting on the victim act about being oppressed because of her slash preference. Slash is not a minority and they need to stop acting like they are.