[ SECRET POST #1755 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1755 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 206 secrets from Secret Submission Post #251.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

In all serious, people always say m/m erases women from canon but I rarely see this actually happening. Pairing fics tend to be oneshots, porn or otherwise, and usually heavily on the two characters regards of being het/slash/femslash.

If the fandom have regular, prominent female characters, you will never very rarely see actual erasure (meaning that they were erased because the author didn't like females) but if the fandom as occasionally but reoccurring female character (like ones who don't appear all that much), there's no real obligation to include them like the male version of that character. The problem is that series like those never had much of a female presence (which in turn the fans are likely to be slash oriented in terms of shipping).

I think we call erasure too lightly if said canon doesn't have a very strong female presence in the first place. But ones with significant female canonical presence (the female characters are consistently present and their own characters) are far less likely to erase.

[magnetic-regina.livejournal.com]

Erasure might be a too strong word for it but fandom definitely focuses on men and their stories over women. I'm not saying that slash is the only way that fandom does it or that all slash does this (in my original comment it was specifically about the slashing of m/m exclusively).

And yeah, part of it is that the show/book/etc. in the first place will have male man character/cast made up of mostly men but even in that case you'll see fans taking up minor male characters and rounding them out rather than a minor female character. Canons with significant female characters do tend to be much better about including women in fanworks but idk it seems to be a bit of a cycle? Like there's a small female presence in show -> the fandom focuses on the male characters -> people assume that fans don't want to see/enjoy female characters.

[(Anonymous)]

But even fandoms with equal or more important female characters than males still write more men than women.

[(Anonymous)]

Men in general or m/m?