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fandomsecrets2011-10-23 03:44 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-10-23 03:44 pm
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can't help but wonder if change from guys to girls was conscious decision on your part.
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..whut. What even is this question. A "conscious decision," uh, no, not really. It's not like I did it to get in the cool kids' club. And ftr it wasn't a change from guys to girls it was realizing I'm biromantic rather than heteroromantic (as I am asexual).
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herp derp so it's ok to 'defile' straight characters?? do you feel the same about gay characters being turned straight for the purpose of a fic or whatever? i don't much like that either and i'd SURE hope you don't take the 'HETEROSEXUALS HAVE IT SO EASY SO ANY NEGATIVITY TOWARDS THEM IS TOTALLY JUSTIFIED' because if that's the case, well, heterophobia LIVES.
srsly i don't like any character being rewritten so someone can get their nasty little rocks off. if you think it's alright for only straight characters then you're obviously a tool with no sense of equality. if you agree that it's fine to change a gay character to straight if i want to ship him with a girl then aight, respect up for you for supporting both sides.
i don't think you should go around hooking up with people. to me that's just a dumb waste of time. herp derp sex gotta have it with this random bloke!!! yeap i don't follow that line of 'thinking' if you can even call it such, sorry.
i also think you should be set in your sexuality and not some flip-flop wavering mess but hey, that's just me, maybe it's easier for me to see things that way because i am 101% confident in my heterosexuality. awwww yee men.
MEDIA HATES GAYS yeah ok, that's why there's a gay character on like every abc (family) show these days. it's stupid to think there needs to be a gay character in everything like it's stupid to think there needs to be ETHNICMINORITYHERE in everything. if the shoe fits, wear it, if it doesn't, you're not cinderella you don't get to go to the ball.
just because the SPECIES default is heterosexuality or you couldn't REPRODUCE if you didn't want to get at the opposite sex (test tube babies and stuff aside since that's not biological nor does your sex drive understand you can put your dna in someone else's egg and grow it) doesn't somehow magically make characters on tv bi by default to justify 'it's totes in character still'.
i enjoy a good relationship with quality chemistry and such as much as anyone else. i just.. don't feel the need to twist characters into something they're not, whether for a regular ole fic or for a smutty one.
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Numbered lists keep me from exploding.
2. I do not feel the same about making homosexual characters straight, for reasons that would be obvious if you weren't a homophobe. Given the history of people/organizations/institutions trying to "turn" gay people straight, the myth of the "choice" to be homosexual, and the societal prejudice against homosexuals, it is disgusting and distasteful to feature a homosexual character as "straight". I have less issue with depicting said person as bisexual, or as some fluid level of sexuality where they become attracted to someone of the opposite sex but are still considered / regarded and so on as gay, though.
3. lolol "get their nasty little rocks off." You really do just hate sex, don't you? I mean, seriously, what the fuck. It isn't rewriting the character, you disgusting homophobe. GET IT RIGHT. You can write a character as non-heterosexual without changing their whole fucking personalities, and that you think you can't is testament to the INCREDIBLY homophobia you are displaying here. And you know what? I'd rather be a "tool with no sense of equality" than a bullshit artist such as yourself, spinning a tale of heterophobia that doesn't exist because I recognize such things as CONTEXT and HISTORY when I consider an issue.
4. Again, you really seem to hate sex. Nice slut-shaming, by the way. And seriously, not even all casual sex goes like that, so I don't know what the fuck you're even talking about anymore here. WHAT YOU THINK =/= WHAT ANYONE ELSE HAS TO THINK.
5. Good for you, you're a zero on the Kinsey scale! Hardly anyone else is, though. And it isn't being a ~flip-flop wavering mess to um, not be exclusively one thing or the other. Do you think bisexual people are just "flip-flop wavering messes"? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you.
6. Yeah, media is really homophobic. And I'm sorry, I watch television other than ABC, so I don't see a lot of gay characters. I mean, let's see, of the shows I have seen recently (and I watch almost every new show that comes out each season at least once) I can think of... um, two? Two with actual gay characters. Out of like, twenty or so. And either way? There does need to be diversity in television. People do write these parts. Are you seriously telling me people shouldn't be encouraged to write for a diverse cast? That people shouldn't be discouraged from writing show after show of The Straight White People? Bullshiiiit. Bigot.
7. No, the default in society is heterosexuality. When people think of someone, they default to thinking of them as straight unless it is explicitly otherwise stated -- and sometimes even then (thinking of how many lesbians I know who have been told they'd be straight if they "knew better" ie had sex with a man). Characters are FICTIONAL, they can be whatever sexuality the writer wants. And if you say they should by default be straight because you personally don't like the idea of thinking characters are bisexual by default? It's probably because you're a bigoted fuckwit. Anyway, as has been said elsewhere in this thread, what people see as the "default" when it comes to sexuality depends on them. And if someone else sees XYZ character as bisexual, who the fuck are you to tell them they're wrong? Who the fuck do you think YOU are, the sexuality police?
8. You "enjoy a good relationship with quality chemistry" as long as the characters aren't written as gay, amirite? Cos that's what you're ALLLLLLLL over this post basically saying. It doesn't matter how great the chemistry is, how little canon romance they have -- if it's not SHOWN that they're gay, you think they're straight! (Because, hi homophobia!) Good job putting your bigotry on display <3
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same goes for you sweetheart, you seem to think that I should subscribe to your apparently more open-minded opinion.
guess what dickhead, you might as well go form some gay nazi club because if you honestly believe EVERYONE has to subscribe to homosexuality for all YEAH it's great WOOHOO and can't accept some people do have valid reasons to disagree, you're no better than them.
alright proves you're an idiot. you have no problem changing het chars to gay or bi, but you do with gay ones, because OMG GAYS HAVE IT SOOOO HARD IRL?
you're an absolute idiot. you only PERPETUATE the difference between heterosexuality and homosexuality by maintaining there is ANY difference.
do you see one as less or more worthy than the other?? why in the WORLD does it matter which way the character is changed from, it's still not right to disregard that element of them.
how utterly pathetic you don't understand that while you think differentiating the two makes your cause stronger you really just encourage the divide to grow wider. WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? please, tell me, what makes it so right to do things one way just because 'gays got forced to act straight' in the past. you don't think straight people being forced to act gay, should that happen, is just as wrong?
really?
how sick in the head are you lol
go on whatever tl;dr about me being a 'homophobic bigot', that totes isn't true. i have no fear of homosexuality nor am i against homosexual people. i don't think homosexuality itself is anything positive and some of the most hateful, spiteful, vindictive people i have met have been homosexuals who try and shove their flamboyance down everyone else's throats.
but i'm SURE that's only because people like me carry on the flag of HOMOPHOBIA. herp derp.
idgaf what color a character is in a show. the character should be cast properly, regardless of race. i think it's stupid to MAKE a character any specific ethnicity or culture or anything similar because then you are JUST doing it to pander to a minority's wishes instead of for the quality of the show.
if a character works as black/asian/a little green man then go for it, but don't delude yourself into thinking forcing token minorities into fiction is any sort of good idea. looooooool. it's MUCH better to not have a black character at all than to have a poorly written one that the writer(s) struggle developing because the original personality just doesn't match the actor and they HAD TO HIRE a black actor because OMG DIVERSITY MUST BE FORCED.
diversity should be natural you moron.
look champ, you seem to not understand how humanity BREEDS. that is: HETEROSEXUALITY, via HETEROSEXUAL SEX. that is the default for me because that's how we survive on as a race. if you want to think something else well alright but uhhh you're probs just clueless.
i can see by the fact almost every sentence of yours contains 'homophobe', 'bigot' or some other attempted insult you legitimately have nothing more constructive to say, nor do you seem to acknowledge some people are PERFECTLY within their bounds to view heterosexuality as the normal orientation for a race that requires heterosexual intercourse to reproduce.
congrats on proving why gay people don't deserve rights - you don't respect the rights of others in the slightest :U
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(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Numbered lists keep me from exploding.
(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)Kindly get yourself killed.
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(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)why are people still feeding you