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there's an easy solution to that

lurk more

go to some feminist101 style communities and read the posts there

etc

for the record: agreeing with anyone complaining about 'dem feminazis' is a really stupid move, bc there is literally no way to seriously use the term feminazis and not be a trivializing misogynist

No, I agree that it was a stupid comment on my part, and the bit I was agreeing with was the part about often times, men simply aren't allowed to have an opinion on feminist matters.

But, the damage is done, so whatever. Nothing I say can fix it so I give up before anything even gets started.

Men are absolutely entitled to their opinions. However, said opinions may not be welcome if they voice them because, well, for beginners, those opinions may be misogynist in nature (as that person's obviously are). For another, men see sexism from a position of power, which puts them in a very different position from women who are experiencing sexism -- that is to say, men are unwelcome both because they have power and privilege here, and because they are not the ones experiencing sexism, and having someone talk down to you about what ~real equality~ is, what constitutes sexism, and how feminists should behave when they have never experienced real sexism, when they have no idea what it's like to be a woman in this society/culture? It gets old fast.

Men can have their opinions, but they don't get the right to make their opinions more important than those of the women who actually live with and experience sexism every day of their lives. And they sure as hell do not get to dictate feminism to women.

okay, put aside the 'poor me i'm going to be roughly harangued for not agreeing with the hive mind' mentality and posturing and think about this for a second

why exactly should men's opinions be given much attention in feminist discussions? feminism is about combatting the patriarchy, getting rid of male privilege, and empowering women. why should men's thoughts about women - especially misogynist, whiny "omg double standards D:" ones like that of davidshephard here - be given value in discussions of this sort?

sure, men can have opinions about feminism - no one's suggesting that these should be disallowed - but often it's not appropriate to bring them up. especially when the person expounding on the evils of 'feminazis' clearly knows nothing about feminism or misogyny at all.

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