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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-23 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1755 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1755 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 206 secrets from Secret Submission Post #251.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Re: Are there any men watching?

[identity profile] curseangel.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Well obvs if you make a point while anon you're automatically wrong. Automatically. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

I think they just want me to let them stalk my profile info for wankbait or something, lol.

Re: Are there any men watching?

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
No. But there are two issues I have with anon comments: one being that good friends of mine have been stalked from one community to about five others and trolled for things that have no place in the current context, and this can't be tracked when they're always trolling anonymous, thus making every community unsafe and unwelcoming for them when they did not deserve it; Another being, I honestly like to know how many people I'm in an argument with. Because there is a difference between having one back-and-forth argument with one person and a massive argument against twenty.

For the record, those are my two biggest issues with anon comments. In case you were wondering.

Re: Are there any men watching?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
this isn't some petty fandom drama that's going to follow you around like a gossip storm, i swear

this is just a couple of people being upset with your misogyny stanning and your refusal to listen to anyone posting anon

Re: Are there any men watching?

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Again, it's nice of you to hear things I never said. I have listened to all of the anon statements directed at me, thank you, and most of the time when I ask a question like that I really am asking a question. It was answered, and I appreciate it.

But, I also do appreciate you listening to my words, as per your first sentence, and I do hope that you're right and that this debate stays where it belongs - right here. I'll gladly listen to what people have to say to me if they speak to me with even a hint of respect, treating me like a person. But I hate to see people trolling me and stalking me and taking such a low road over something like this when - even if I do deserve to be lectured and corrected and given a stern talking to - I don't deserve torment.

Re: Are there any men watching?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
i said it wouldn't follow you everywhere like high school gossip

that doesn't mean i'm never going to bring it up again if it's relevant

and no, that's not stalking and trolling. it's kind of offensive you'd compare people calling you out on asshattery to stalking, actually.

and i find it interesting that you find it so important i treat you like a person, but you don't think it's wrong at all for someone like davidshephard to treat women as less than people. i find it amusing that you're okay with people using misogynist terms like bitch to dehumanize women when you're apparently very concerned about respect.

Re: Are there any men watching?

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
I'm honestly not that concerned with the respect I may or may not get. If you don't show me respect, hey, that's your prerogative. I didn't earn it from you. But don't expect me to acknowledge you if you don't show me a SLIVER of respect, either.

And, I'm not sure I can say this any more than I have: Davidshephard seemed like an ass. But he didn't seem like a misogynistic ass. He seemed like the type to treat EVERYONE with sarcastic attitude and name-calling. Forgive me if I missed something, I'll gladly eat my words if there's honestly a point where he treated men and women unequally. But that's what I saw from what I read.

And, if you want to talk to me about bullshit, hey, that's fine. If you want to call me on something I've said in fandomsecrets, that's fine, too. But maybe you could avoid following people to other communities and start shit based on conversations here, or vice-versa. That's the part that bothers me.

Re: Are there any men watching?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
it's been explained to you about five times why what he said was misogynist as hell

just because you're too fucking ignorant to understand what sexism is doesn't mean it's magically not there

i will happily bring your ignorance in this thread up every time you post on fandomsecrets about anything like sexism or homophobia or other forms of bigotry, just to remind you that yes, people remember that shit, and if you want us to quit bugging you about it you should go read a book about it or something and fucking educate yourself so you don't offend people by being a misogynist.

Re: Are there any men watching?

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, then. We seem to have come to an agreement in the proper way to handle your disdain for someone in fandomsecrets. Thank you for being clear and honest, at least. I do appreciate that much.

Re: Are there any men watching?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
if you're talking about who i think you are lol

your friends are homophobes, that's why people hate them

hth

Re: Are there any men watching?

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, love, but they're not. My father and sister are, and I'm trying to make sure that my niece and nephew are not. But I don't generally make friends with homophobes. Thanks for playing.

Re: Are there any men watching?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
but you are

i won't name names, but you know exactly who i'm talking about, i'm sure

chances are you defend them the same way you defend davidshephard.

Re: Are there any men watching?

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Have fun pointing that finger. Enjoy your delusion.