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fandomsecrets2011-10-25 07:49 pm
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(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 01:01 am (UTC)(link)It was Thailand, not Singapore, please do your research, googling is not hard :|
Also uh, I wouldn't want to generalise and say things like 'poor education about the whole Nazi movement' that simply, if I were you, without at least looking at the history syllabus in various schools in that region- speaking here as someone actually from Southeast Asia who took History in highschool, I can tell you that we did cover WWII in a fair amount of depth, concentrating equally on the European and Pacific theatres of war.
Even I wouldn't want to say how much other people in different countries know, though, because frankly I know just as much about the syllabus in Laos as I do about how history is thought in some place like Yugoslavia. Of course it's justifiable to say that different places would emphasize- or de-emphasize- certain issues which are deemed politically sensitive (the Nanking Massacre and the Vietnam War are two major examples but I can go on), but 'there is a poor education about the whole nazi movement' isn't, strictly speaking, correct at all.
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(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 01:08 am (UTC)(link)But- honestly, I really don't think something like that would fly in some parts of Asia, but at the same time I really don't want to generalise about things like 'oh everyone in this place has these sorts of attitudes'.
Speaking of generalisations, though, there ARE going to be ignorant people everywhere, this much, if nothing else, is likely to be a constant no matter what country you're in. The number of them and how obvious they are and what they can get away with will differ, yes, but I don't think you can really blame a whole country or a whole region for something like that without examining more specific socio-cultural as well as political factors that are involved.
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I admit I haven't looked at a school syllabus outside of Japan, but a study of media shows some odd patterns of glorification of Nazism. (I kind of want to run a serious study of this now. I worked on a project that looked at the depiction of the Nanking Massacre in other parts of the world, and that was really surprising.) It is unfair to generalize ALL of Asia in this. Some get more of their media exported that others, and censorship of what is exported is more extreme in some places.
My comment really stems from what I started reading after the Nazi-themed parade. I read all this, admittedly, on the internet, but from news-type sources. In short, they were saying the negativity and pain attached to the nazi's of WWII wasn't really taught. It could simply be a case of "emphasize- or de-emphasize- certain issues which are deemed politically sensitive," but it seems to do it to the determent of learning in depth. It would explain the less than internationally sensitive actions.
I'm going to go look for links now.
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(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 02:29 am (UTC)(link)You might want to! I can tell you that in Southeast Asia, at least, there is going to be a difference between what countries teach and which colonial power they were under the control of, as well as their own policies. Vietnam, for instance, will teach the Second Indochinese War in a very different manner from the way that America would, and this is entirely understandable.
Also if you're talking about the difference in the way that WWII is treated in Southeast Asia, at least, then you should also keep in mind the different degrees of involvement that various countries had. Thailand as well stands out from the rest of the region as something of an anomaly, and doubly so, as well; it's never come under colonial control and also was not attacked by Japan, rather, both countries made treaties and Japan used it as a launching point for attacks into the rest of Southeast Asia (an oversimplification, I know, but that's the basics of it).
It might be interesting to bring Australia in, as well, since while they faced air raids by Japanese forces they were never actually invaded by land in the same way that many other countries were. They also did have a lot of soldiers in the war and were involved as part of the Commonwealth of Nations.
Also, I'm glad you're looking for links! It's always a good idea to read various sources and viewpoints on an issue before thinking about what exactly the root factors might be that caused it. Japan isn't the only country that has nationalistic tendencies in its education, nearly all countries do, and the whole thing about the deterrent of learning in depth, well, I can say that the same applies to the study of a lot of American history, looking at their textbooks and comparing it to what I myself learned in school. Does that mean my education was more comprehensive than theirs? Yes, but only in certain areas, in others I know very little (European history and western civ, I'm looking at you).
Also, while I don't know (and wouldn't want to say) that the negativity and pain attached to the Nazi's in WWII is not taught in schools, I will say that whatever IS actually taught in that part of the world is also taught alongside reports of Japanese atrocities during the war, the massacres by Stalin and the deaths in Communist China under Mao's rule, as well as the Khmer Rogue regime. There is, I have to say, a lot to cover.
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(Anonymous) 2011-10-26 06:59 am (UTC)(link)no subject