[ SECRET POST #1757 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1757 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 119 secrets from Secret Submission Post #.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com]

I come from the US and have never seen any Nazi symbolism or imagery there except as used by movie bad guys and, like, the occasional fetish porn thing or something.

In Japan, I literally see it basically every week. Stop Japan from producing Nazi fetish media and it would go a long-ass way.

Yes, there are other countries. Yes, there are other countries where it's more harmful (in Italy, it's actually anti-Semitic, as opposed to Japan where it's just ignorant as hell). That doesn't mean Japan isn't responsible for a lot of -- maybe even most of -- the cool, stylish Nazi imagery thing as it exists right now.

[(Anonymous)]

...so you're arguing with me to agree with me? I'm confused at what you're disagreeing with here, because you basically said what I said.

Japan is responsible for a lot. It's not responsible for all.

Therefore, blaming only Japan for it is rather simplifying the issue.

Which part of that did you disagree with?

[ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com]

I think you're being defensive and/or denying the magnitude of Japan's role in this and the degree of responsibility it bears for making Nazis cool.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think I ever did. On my end it looks like mekkio- not you- is handwaving the participation of other countries in this as unimportant.

[mekkio.livejournal.com]

I know that other countries participate in the activity but not to the degree as the Japanese do. For other countries it's strictly an underground thing. Meanwhile, in Japan you can find this in every day pop culture. Manga, television, pop idols, for instance. Again, in other countries there's a thug menace to it. That's why it's underground. Because they know it's wrong or at least, not acceptable in their certain culture. But in Japan, not so.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd agree with that. To a lot of Japan, it is genuinely "lol just cool uniforms who cares," and that should change.

What you originally wrote seemed to put all the blame for any and all Nazi fetishism at Japan's feet, though- and I was just pointing that out when this rather circular discussion with ncc_gqmf happened, that's all.

[type89.livejournal.com]

It's also prevalent in India and South Korea, actually! And possibly any other country that had little to do with Nazis.

It's a case of detachment. Japan was sided with Germany in WW2. They didn't have much interaction with Nazis in their own country, I think, and there were no war crimes committed against them by Nazis. (They were commiting war crimes they still refuse to own up to :/ )

So, unlike Europe and North America there really isn't that strong of a negative public opinion towards Nazis. I'm not even sure how well they cover the Holocaust in history school textbooks; they definitely gloss over their own country's war crimes and paint a bad picture of the Allies.

In the end it's just a difference in culture. A very bad difference but there it is. If any type of media treated the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings the way Nazis are treated I'm sure there'd be a much bigger public outcry, considering that actually had a huge effect on Japan itself.