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fandomsecrets2011-10-29 02:12 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2011-10-29 02:12 pm
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Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Early because there's a snowstorm here, not sure if power will stay on. Better early than late!
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Re: ???....????
(Anonymous) 2011-10-30 01:58 am (UTC)(link)I understood what you were attempting to say, although it was not very relevant to what cdaae was saying. I... can't even be bothered to explain what I was pointing out to you, since you don't get it. Never mind.
I don't know how many times you need it explaining. "They wanted to help but did not understand that what they were doing was actually hurting"... But Adele obviously did know that rape is bad and hurts, as you pointed out. She doesn't think it is something that "helps." She is angry about someone being used against their will as a doll - except when she thinks that person is schizophrenic. She didn't think of it as rape when she thought it was happening to someone who was seriously mentally ill. That is the point.
If you think what Adele and Topher did doesn't make it reasonable for someone to believe they are bad people, you presumably don't think it would be reasonable to call a doctor found to be performing lobotomies on mental patients a bad person either, so long as he "thought he was helping." Beause that's what your logic says.
Re: ???....????
(Anonymous) 2011-10-30 02:45 am (UTC)(link)What I was saying was that perhaps (and I realise I'm speculating wildly) Topher thought he was helping. Like those doctors who used to drill holes in people's heads.
They thought they were helping. They never were, but they thought they were, and for hundreds of years everyone else thought they were.
The doctors who performed lobotomies, they thought they were doing good. They thought they were helping. Ignorance cannot be construed as misdeed, and the desire to help, to do good for people, to help them, cannot be judged as bad if you have only the knowledge of that time.
If you gave the knowledge we have now to someone who used to drill holes to release demons, and they understood it but continued to drill holes, that is bad, but ignorance, the not knowing, itself, that is not bad.
That is what my logic says, because that is what is true. Not understanding something is not bad. Doing something contrary to that which you understand is bad.
Kind of got away from the point there.
What you don't seem to grasp is.......
(Anonymous) 2011-10-30 04:08 am (UTC)(link)If they wanted to cure Priya, if that was their motivation -- they could have made her a doll and NOT RENTED HER OUT FOR SEX WITH PEOPLE.
How do you think that added to the cure? Seriously, how was the sex part necessary?
She didn't consent to it. It was rape. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
Re: What you don't seem to grasp is.......