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⌈ Secret Post #1761 ⌋

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Early because there's a snowstorm here, not sure if power will stay on. Better early than late!

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It's been a very long time since I've checked this guy's dialogue so it's possible I'm misremembering (maybe he was talking about Pres. Shinra instead) - but there's an NPC in Kalm who mentions that Rufus is dead. The only reason this has stuck in my mind is because the first time I played Rufus was my favorite character and I was in denial that he could've died in that attack, and when I spoke to that NPC my world crashed down around me... lol. Of course it's always fair to say that people just assumed he was dead and spread the news, so there's still a loophole there that could justify his still being alive in AC. Personally now that I've grown up and gotten over my teenage obsession with Rufus I now hate that they kept him alive for AC.

Wow I talked way more about this than I intended to, ha, sorry about that.

I guess I never talked to that NPC. I can't find the reference anywhere in the game transcripts online or on the FF7 wikis either, though.

Ehhhhh I actually always kind of figured him and Tseng would be back. They were popular characters (unlike, say, Rufus's dad or Hojo) and their deaths weren't necessary to drive the plot forward (unlike, say, Aeris's or Zack's). Tends to get one resurrected in popular fiction.

Yeah I tried searching for it in scripts before I commented, but I guess no one transcribes every single NPC convo after every single event (unsurprising, as that would be a huge undertaking) but it's a guy near the entrance to Kalm on the upper part of the screen, possibly wandering/standing near the Inn? Obviously it's after Diamond Weapon's attack, but I'm not sure at what exact point in the plot he says it. I wish I had a save near there so I could check. Kind of makes me want to replay the game specifically to find it though, which is so nerdy I can't even...

Popularity is probably my least favorite reason for resurrecting characters, I hate the fan pandering involved and it usually cheapens the emotional impact of the original deaths. Even so, I actually would've loved to see Hojo come back! I like the idea that a nutjob scientist like him would find some way to bring himself back. I could ramble on about this for hours but I'll stop myself now, I'm hyped up on caffeine so I keep talking and talking, ahh.

You don't have to replay the game. Yinza's script is pretty convenient (though not 100% complete) for NPC dialogue. I think the line you're talking about is this:

Redhead
Hey, listen to me! I heard the barrier protecting Sephiroth is gone!
But with Rufus dead, the Shinra troops don't know what to do. Heidegger and Scarlet don't have what it takes to lead the troops......
I really thought something was finally going to get done, but everything's the same... not a damn thing's changed!

from
http://www.yinza.com/Fandom/Script/47.html

They'd probably argue the NPC was just going off of misinformation (since they are a random NPC) but damn, he got blasted by a WEAPON.

That's it exactly, thanks! It's cool that there is a script with most of the NPC dialogue.

It is reasonable to assume the NPC has been misinformed. I agree though, that attack looked pretty fucking brutal. And I may not like it, but surviving a Weapon attack to the face/body and still looking so damn pretty in the movie sequel is an admirable achievement even for Rufus.

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