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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-31 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #1763 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1763 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Somebody's been spamming the submissions post with old secrets, apparently (for what actual purpose, I'm not sure). Just give me a heads up and I'll take the repeats down.

Secrets Left to Post: 08 pages, 200 secrets from Secret Submission Post #252.
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Re: NF

(Anonymous) 2011-11-01 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

You want to know why? Let me explain it to you: it reeks and not only for the smoker but the smokees, it CAUSES CANCER EVEN IN THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU W/DON'T SMOKE, and most of the other actions you cited don't physically harm the people around you w/the exception of speeding and I've heard friends complain about another friend's speeding. YOU EATING TRANSFATS AFFECTS ONLY YOUR HEALTH; IT DOESN'T AFFECT MY PHYSICAL HEALTH (although if you have a heart attack from it, I may be emotionally upset/damaged by that). I DON'T WANT TO SMELL LIKE OR SMELL YOUR DISGUSTING SMOKE. IT REEKS; IT MAKES ME COUGH; AND I DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL. Your eating transfats doesn't make me fat or damage my arteries or give me cancer. Can you say that about smoking? I didn't think so since 2nd hand smoke has been proven to cause cancer.

Smoking is disgusting, smelly not just for the smoker but the smokees around her (everyone stinks after being with a smoker), gives not only herself but the smokees around her lung cancer (second hand smoke is even more dangerous than the inhaled smoke due to not being filtered), and it's been proven to cause lung cancer. How much more stupid can someone get. I don't want to be around someone who smokes and it's my choice and it's not stupid or petty either.

I won't be friends with, much less date, a smoker, until they quit or are trying to. My mother smoked until I was 18. I fuckin' hated it. I reeked of smoke, the house reeked of it, she reeked, everything reeked. Yes, I judge you if you smoke. You're a stupid, idiot loser. And yes, I lost a friend who didn't smoke to lung cancer b/c of his career and jobs exposed to smokers on nightly basis. He was trying to be a professional singer and so took care of himself and his voice. So fuck off with the it's harmless crap.

Re: NF

[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm guessing you're the same anon who I replied to downthread, so I'll just repeat myself.

Where I live, it is illegal to smoke indoors. You, as a non-smoker, have no need to go into a designated outdoor smoking area. It doesn't give you cancer to stand inside while I smoke. It doesn't make you smell bad to stand inside while I smoke. It doesn't harm anyone but me when I stand outside and smoke, except other adults who make a grown-up choice to be standing in those areas, and even then, being that it's outside the effects are negligible.

I can say with 100% certainty that I, at least, am really glad that you don't associate with smokers. It saves me the worry that I might ever be forced to be around you in real life.

Re: NF

(Anonymous) 2011-11-01 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Different anon. I agree with a lot of what you've said, I'm surprised how judgey people are being in this thread or why they think it's their business what vices people have.

Though I do have to say it's not always so easy to avoid smokers, many people do not obey the indoor laws, and when you live in a city and walk everywhere it is pretty much a constant thing to have smoke blown in your face by other people who are walking in front of you.

I generally don't mind, but it occasionally does make me sick. Especially at concerts indoors where the pot smoke gets really thick and mixes all together even though it's all sorts of not supposed to be there. I just wish in those situations smokers/pot smokers would think about other people, but I just consider them to be inconsiderate people and I don't hold it against all smokers.

Re: NF

[identity profile] cold-river-blue.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I completely agree with the no smoking inside thing, and it sucks that people are blatantly breaking the law where you are. I live in a fairly metropolitan place where people are really strict about the smoking ban - there are only one or two "smoke easies" that I know of, and pretty much everybody who goes there does so on purpose to smoke indoors, so nobody else much cares. Honestly, I was really happy when the ban was enacted, because even as a smoker, working all night in a crowded bar left me hoarse and coughing.

As far as the walking down the street thing, I'm sure it does bother some non-smokers when I smoke on the sidewalk, but I'm honestly not too concerned about it. That type of exposure to second-hand smoke isn't going to affect anyone's health, and I see it as one of those minor inconveniences that you just have to deal with in a city. I am allergic to lots of types of perfume, so it bothers me when people wear heavy scents, but I can't really expect them not to for a stranger's convenience. It also bugs me to walk behind someone chatting loudly on a cell phone, but I deal because I know that's never going to stop.

Re: NF

(Anonymous) 2011-11-01 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I do sincerely hope you don't drink. Most of what you've said here applies to alcohol as well (substituting in 'obnoxious behaviour' for 'reeking of cig smoke', and 'risk of death by drunk driver' for 'lung cancer')

And the rest of your rant mostly consists of I HATE IT SO IT'S BAD, which is not an argument.

Re: NF

[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah basically this.

Re: NF

[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2011-11-01 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed.

Re: NF

(Anonymous) 2011-11-01 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
you sound like one of those people who is all "SMOKING IS BAD AND I HATE IT OKAY" and then says "But it's your choice if you want to smoke pot and it shouldn't be illegal and it's actually good for a lot of things." I hate people like that.