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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-11-08 07:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #1771 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1771 ⌋


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Re: O_o?

[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and Anne Rice talks as if Lestat was a real person. Just because the author is caught up with her fantasy doesn't mean her audience doesn't get it.

People with this kink don't want to hear how wrong it is. They just don't. Because hearing how wrong it is makes them feel like they shouldn't be enjoying what they like, because as you said, it's wrong. So they go into denial.

But just because they are in denial about their kink doesn't mean that setting them straight is the way to go. All that accomplishes is to make good people feel shitty about the stuff they like for no reason. This is escapist fantasy -- the area where we are allowed to raise our middle fingers at reality and suspend disbelief.

So whenever I see this endless ragging on something people obviously love, it annoys me. Let people enjoy their damn book in peace.

Re: O_o?

[identity profile] ruadragon.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
I...didn't say there was anything wrong with having that kink? Or intentionally imply such.

I think it's wrong for a writer to present and talk about an abusive relationship as positive, in a real life, non-escapist way. That's pretty much all my posts have been saying.

Re: O_o?

[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I know you are. And I'm not mad at you or anything. I'm just trying to explain that ... that's the kink. I haven't seen the specific interview you were talking about, but I've seen enough of these confrontations to get that both sides are talking cross purpose.

It absolutely 100 percent spoils the kink to think about it as being anything but positive and fluffy. Which is why you aren't going to get some fans to admit, "yeah, this is actually a horrible situation". Because that kills the fantasy. And they like their fantasy.