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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-11-12 03:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #1775 ]

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[identity profile] diorama23.livejournal.com 2011-11-12 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't have to lure anyone to go to the USA. Or any country which has a peaceful 'more' tolerant society. It's about accepting people who are desperate to escape persecution, and are willing to risk their lives to do so. There are millions of refugees in the world, who can't go home, and don't want to go home.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-12 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think what some of this thread says is that you can't just take a bunch of people who've lived all their lives in societies that have broken completely down and just drop them somewhere else without the new host society suffering, and it's not unreasonable for members of that host society not to want to risk that without proper controls and safeguards in place. Unrestricted immigration is not the answer to either problem.

[identity profile] diorama23.livejournal.com 2011-11-12 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You realise you're repeating the same propaganda that you hear from any right wing anti-immigration political party.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-13 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
you realize you have no grasp on the world, immigration, population, etc.: any of these issues, right?

you just spout the same nonsense that.. nobody really agrees with because societies that are plagued by a lack of jobs can't provide jobs for immigrants either!!!!

herp derp moron, if there's not enough jobs for the native population why do you think letting however many more people rush in from other countries will magically make jobs, or give those people a better life when they can't get work to make money?

(Anonymous) 2011-11-13 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
No, I don't realize that and I'm not against immigration. I live in a town with a very large minority population. The people who have emigrated here have enriched the community, revitalized the local economy, and just all around made my home a much more awesome place. But that foreign influx happened over a period of 40 years. The ONLY reason we all get along with very few incidents is because we (both sides) were assimilated/introduced to the other culture slowly and carefully, over time.

You know, sometimes when societies function well and long on a large scale they do so because they've made choices (good and bad) that serve their citizenry as a whole. That means that some people who are not of the same citizenry are not served and are in jeopardy, but the long-term solution to that will have to happen on their native ground, not a foreign one.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2011-11-16 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm as liberal as anyone can get, and yeah, they have a point. (And the Right in this country actually LOVES illegal immigrants - cheap labor who won't start unions for fear of deportation.)