[ SECRET POST #1775 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1775 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[amph87.livejournal.com]

If I was seriously ill or in a terrible life situation, I wouldn't think about starting a family. If I got pregnant nevertheless (by accident) and genuinely cared about the kid's future, I'd choose adoption. This is a stupid reasoning to you?

[kaatsu.livejournal.com]

It's a reasoning (a classist, ablist reasoning). Assuming that your reasoning is the only correct one and that any others should be punished is pretty obviously terrible thinking.

The best way to provide happy, stable families for children is not by making sure that only the "correct" people have children. That has been tried many, many times. Guess what? They were horrific abuses of human rights that caused immense pain to many generations. The best way to make for stable families is to empower people to make good choices-- access to education, support networks, decent welfare, affordable medical care, affordable housing. But that would involve empathy and effort, wouldn't it? It's much easier just to blame the victims of our fucked up system than to try and fix the system itself.

[amph87.livejournal.com]

Basically you're suggesting that we should improve society as a whole before more specific problems like bad parenting can be solved, but that's a rather easy thing to say.

[kaatsu.livejournal.com]

You're conflating being ill or poor with bad parenting, which is bullshit.

[amph87.livejournal.com]

A rough environment or a mentally ill parent with abusive tendencies has no effect on a child's wellbeing, then?

Not claiming that they're impossibe to overcome, mind. But these things can get very bad in some families.

[kaatsu.livejournal.com]

Now you've thrown in "abusive" into the equation. That's misleading. Parents without mental issues can be abusive. Rich parents can be abusive. It's not a side-effect of being poor or being ill, which was your original premise.

Things can go wrong in all families. Singling out ill or poor parents for forced removal of their children is wrong for so many reasons.

[lumin0l.livejournal.com]

You are an ignorant puke. Just letting you know.