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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-11-12 03:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #1775 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1775 ⌋


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[identity profile] 10littlebullets.livejournal.com 2011-11-13 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I do think it's possible to objectify characters--not by writing porn about them, or even by being more interested in writing porn about them than in writing loving in-depth character analyses or whatever, but by being completely dismissive of anything but their fap potential. It's the difference between the fuckbuddy who knows you have a life outside booty calls but doesn't ask you about it because it's not relevant to their interests, and the sleazoid who thinks anything else you do is a frivolous accessory to your main purpose in life of being sexy 24/7. Why shouldn't that distinction extend to lusting after fictional characters? Just because the word 'objectification' gets misused and slung around indiscriminately in fandom wankfests, and SJ warriors tend to bawwwwww as though real people are being hurt, doesn't mean the concept can't apply to fictional people as well as real ones.

To use an example, I'd be a bit skeeved talking Doctor Who with someone who thought the companions were mostly there for T&A purposes, even though I'd fuck most of the cast to Alpha Centauri and back. Not because OMG PERPETUATING THE OPPRESSION OF WOMEN, but because it's obnoxious and kind of sketchy, and I can't think of any more surefire way to piss in my Cheerios than to cut off my squeefest about what a BAMF Martha Jones is with "Yeah, I guess, but Amy's hotter."

On the flip side, I think Amy is smoking hot and definitely included on the "would fuck all the way to Alpha Centauri" list, but I'm not particularly invested in her plotline. And I wouldn't particularly want to talk Doctor Who with anyone who'd get their knickers in a twist over someone saying "nope, don't give a shit about her as a character, but I'd hit that like the fist of an angry god," because that's not objectification.