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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-11-24 03:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #1787 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1787 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2011-11-24 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
*$199 (dollar sign comes first) in the US, and the internet is clearly US-centric, so please stop showing how you're not from the US, it confuses us Americans.


Fixed that for you.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
While I assume the first anon is from the US, isn't it usually the convention in predominantly English-speaking countries to put the currency sign first? I honestly don't know, but I don't think that anon was trying to show how US-centric Americans online are. And even if they were, you come off like an ass.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
And taking the time to be pedantic about something that has no relevancy to the secret (ie where the DOLLAR sign goes) isn't assholish?

To be honest, I have seen people put it before and after. While it seems to be custom to put it before in most of NA, I wouldn't go up to someone and say THIS IS WRONG IT GOES BEFOOOOORE!!! if they had it after. I most likely wouldn't even register it. Hell, I didn't even notice the OP had done it until someone had pointed out that it was ~wrong~.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
When Japanese people use the shorthand yen sign (¥) rather than the kanji for 'en' (円), it also goes before the number, even though in speech it's always said after the number (so "500 yen" is written ¥500)--so not just an English-speaking country thing. Doesn't the Euro also come before the value?

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Strange, I've always seen the majority of prices written as (price)¥ not ¥(price).

OP here

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
I've never heard any rules about having to put the "€" sign before the amount. I don't think anyone in Europe cares that much about it XD

[identity profile] elica.livejournal.com 2011-11-25 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
No

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't the Euro also come before the value?

No.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of Americans don't realize that people do money signs that way b/c they've never had to see it before. They've never traveled internationally or had their language teachers teach it to them, where is where I learned it but a lot of my friends didn't. Why the hell would we have to learn it anyway? We're a very large country, which has a unified money system. We're not a tiny country surrounded by other tiny countries with different money systems to learn about. I'm sick of the whole anti-American prejudice even from other Americans. God, I get so tired of assholes like you.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Why the hell would we have to learn it anyway? We're a very large country, which has a unified money system. We're not a tiny country surrounded by other tiny countries with different money systems to learn about.

THIS is what annoys me. Not the fact that you might not have had experience with alternate money systems, or might not have experience with other people doing things differently, but that you can stand there and say, "Why should I have to learn that other people might do things differently than me?"

Where the dollar sign was in this secret was irrelevant to the secret. There was no reason for the first anon to even "correct" the OP if not to say, "That's not how WE do it."

On a whole, I'm not anti-American. A lot of people, not just Americans, show an astounding amount of ignorance to other people and other cultures. This instance just happens to involve a supposed American. Hell, they could be Canadian, since as I think with maybe the exception of Quebec, the dollar sign goes in front there too.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-25 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
The USA is a highly isolated and large country. A lack of common knowledge as to what goes on in Lithuania or Wales or Sweden is a reflection on that. It's not that the USA is ignorant when it comes to cultures - they are the melting pot, after all - it's that this kind of information isn't stressed because for most parts of the country, it's not necessary. In an increasingly connected world, this M.O. is quickly becoming outdated, but it's not like the USA is a tiny nation in Europe. The kind of interaction nations engage in elsewhere in the world doesn't really apply to places like the USA or Australia (the latter from which I come, and I assure you people there are infinitely worse than people in the USA when it comes to international knowledge). It's just a matter of what people grow up having relayed to them.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
I know this is probably going to come off as rude, and for that I apologize, but I have to laugh at this:

The USA is a highly isolated and large country

Large? Yes. Isolated? ... wha? The USA does not exist in a vacuum or a bubble. It's not third world country where it receives no information about other countries and is behind the times.

Like I said, I can see not knowing every specific thing about every fucking country's day to day culture, but to honestly say with a straight face, "it's that this kind of information isn't stressed because for most parts of the country, it's not necessary" which makes it sound like no one needs to know that other countries have different currencies/ways of doing things, is just ridiculous.

I don't know how everyone else does things, but if I come across someone who says or does something in a manner that I'm not familiar with, my common sense is to presume they're from somewhere that does it that way, not that it's wrong. That's what I don't get with your logic, and what pissed me off about the original anon's reply.

It was so... ME ME ME THIS IS HOW ****I**** DO IT, AND YOU'RE WROOOOOONG!!! that I recoiled in disbelief. They came across as not even ATTEMPTING to consider that the OP was from a place that just DID THINGS DIFFERENTLY. Their first assumption seemed to be that the OP was just an idiot who did it wrong.

It's just a matter of what people grow up having relayed to them.

I can accept this if you're under the age of a teenager, but to be honest, not much further past that. While a lot of knowledge comes from your family and how you were raised, with that knowledge there should also be the understanding that what you're learning isn't everything, and that there's more out there. Someone who's in high school should be aware that they might come across things they've never learned about.

Anyway, while I'm sorry my initial comment came across as very assholey (so not a word, but I'm sleepy XD), I am just constantly baffled by people who act like what they know is The One Truth™, and that there couldn't possibly be people out there who *GASP* do things in a different way.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-27 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
No, wait. /It's a US dollar sign, so it's not US-centric to stick it where it's supposed to go by US-custom/. Had the poster expressed the money in euros or some other format that has the money sign come second, then, yes, it would be US-centric to demand that it be stuck in front. But if we're dealing with something - in this case, a monetary system - that is /based in the US/, then yes, it does make perfect sense to have it follow US standards.
... not that it wasn't asshole-ish to correct it in the first place. It was just also asshole-ish to be all anti-US about it. :)