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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-11-25 04:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #1788 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1788 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
But there are alot of straight men out there who get a hard on at the sight of women making out.

Are we talking in porn or just out on the street? Because I know some people have issues with men liking lesbians even in porn but I honestly do not see a problem with it. As long as they don't treat any lesbian they see as if they exist just for their gratification, why shouldn't they get off on watching lesbian sex?

(Now, if they're getting hard ons and harassing women out on the street, that's way over the line. But that really goes for anything, not just lesbians.)

[identity profile] ansley15.livejournal.com 2011-11-26 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I guess alot of porn can be demeaning to women (straight or "lesbian", and I put "lesbian" in quotes because there is no way those long-fingernailed girls actually sleep with women.) As far as I'm concerned, people can watch whatever porn they want, even if I find some porn sexist. I'm not saying porn is bad. Some porn can be a good exploration of sex and sexuality. Feminist porn is the shit. But much of the porn industry runs on hetero-patriarchal norms and encourages an "othering" of female sexuality, exploiting it for men. Also, the fethization of female sexuality in alot of porn meant for straight men treats lesbianism as "unusual" or "exotic" thus exploiting the idea the homosexuality is 'shocking' or 'hot' or 'different' when, really, that kind of picture should not be concerned. If you ever watch lesbian porn meant for straight guys and lesbian porn meant for lesbians (or better, read studies on it) there is a huge difference in content.

Short answer: I'm not "talking about porn or just out on the street." I'm talking about the ideological constructs which influence people's actions, whether it's watching porn or actually leering at real life lesbians. After all, ideology influences action in both private and personal levels. If the ideology influencing a guy's love of lesbian porn is fundamentally pro-queer and/feminist, okay. If his ideology is primarily hetero-patriarchal, with objectification, not so okay. Objectification is never a good thing, and a guy who objectifies women in his mind is likely to at least say something incredibly offensive, even if he's not actively harrassing women.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'll be honest, I've seen lesbian porn made for lesbians and porn made for straight guys. I far prefer the porn made for straight guys. (For reference, I'm a woman.)

Most guys interest in lesbian porn is driven by the fact that they think women are hot and two women are hotter. Is it objectifying? Yes, but to an extent all porn is objectifying. Most people do not watch porn thinking about the person in it, just about whether or not they look good naked. It's objectification but as long as it's not carried over to real life interactions, I don't really think it's a big deal.