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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-11-25 04:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #1788 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1788 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Greek Myths (Hermes), Allstate (Mayhem)]


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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for pedophilia]

[Chrono Crusade]


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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there's nothing assholeish about asking people to be ~more respectful of ignorant bigots' feelings~

not at all.

Clearly, the people getting upset about bigotry are the problem here.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
lol, really.
FYI, I was more referring to their use of "overprivileged dirtbag". Because you know, making people ashamed of something they don't have any control over doesn't make you an ass. Nope. Not at all.

And here, just in case you don't understand what I'm trying to say, as you inevitably won't just to start shit: Most of the time, someone's privilege is something beyond their control.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
OH GOD.

THOSE POOR PRIVILEGED PEOPLE.

HOW WILL THEY COPE WITH BEING TOLD THEY'RE PRIVILEGED AND ALSO DOUCHEBAGS.

HOW. WIll. THEY. COPE.


So what if it's beyond their control? Being a douchebag surely isn't, and besides, why shouldn't marginalized people be allowed to be angry at the people that make them a marginalized group?

Try reading this, for example. http://www.nathanielturner.com/whiteantiracistsopenletter.htm

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Oh look, this tired mantra again.

I like how having privilege automatically makes someone a douchebag, apparently. Looks like you missed my ENTIRE POINT. Good job!

FYI again: a lot of people don't even mind being made aware that they have privilege. You're kind of being the douchebag when you feel it necessary to throw it up at every moment for anything ever.

"So what if it's beyond their control?"
Missing my point entirely I see, nice reading comprehension you have there. My point is, making someone ashamed for something that they can't really have a say in is a real dick move. Making someone aware of their privilege is one thing, but calling them all DIRTBAGSSS because of it is shitty.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Did you even read the article I linked.

People with, for example, straight privilege are, by default, oppressors of gay and bisexual people. They can't help having privilege, but surprise! Gay and bisexual people can't help not having privilege. And the fact that straight people do have privilege and that their unearned, not-their-fault-they-have-it privilege is what's keeping LGBTQ people down, can make people resentful.

Add to that the fact that straight people do quite often make ignorant or homophobic remarks or engage in homophobic behaviour, usually without realizing they're doing so, and will usually get upset if you try to point that out, and yeah, it makes a hell of a lot of sense to just write the whole lot of them off as ignorant douchebag bigots. Because they are. They might not mean to be, but they are.

But, I mean, sure. You're right. The hurt feelings of privileged people over being told that they are assholes because they are privileged is so much deeper and more important than the hurt feelings of marginalized people that have to deal day to day with being ignored, othered, fetishized, objectified, mocked, hated on, rallied against, threatened, and otherwise being oppressed. By privileged people.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously? Where did I say that privileged people's feelings are MUCH MORE IMPORTANT?

Spoiler alert: I didn't. Imagine that.

I also read your linked article, yes; in which I find a few objectionable things.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-27 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
"People with privilege are, by default, oppressors."

Sums up the whole Orwellian mess accurately, don't it?

da

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
a lot of people don't even mind being made aware that they have privilege.

as evident by your comments here, yes, yes they do, actually.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
How is it evident then, exactly?

If you actually read anything, you'd see that I specified telling people they have privilege and shaming them for it are different things.

Why this doesn't get through to anyone is a mystery.

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 08:52 am (UTC)(link)
"Rather, white people need to be willing to have their very social position, their very relationship of domination, their very authority, their very being...let go, perhaps even destroyed."

The part in bold - Oh yeah, that sounds nice right there. I like how the author clarifies what "their very being" encompasses, really. Because I would have liked some clarification that doesn't make this sentence look like some kind of suggestion of genocide or something. Fucking hell. Somebody needs to work on their word choice.

[identity profile] danubee.livejournal.com 2011-11-26 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit. I'm all for POCs having a voice, but when you're that fundamentalist about it, you really need to evaluate where your going because it's nowhere good.

SA

(Anonymous) 2011-11-26 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
Thing is, I don't even find the rest of the sentence objectionable, except that vague "very being" thing and being destroyed. I mean, seriously.

Starting to sound like some radical shit up in here.

[identity profile] piratesswoop.livejournal.com 2011-11-30 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
This, dear lord.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-03 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
OD again, Theo!

(Anonymous) 2011-12-03 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
You're despicable, and I hope you know that.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-04 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
You need some more midol, Theo.