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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-12-17 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #1810 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1810 ⌋


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-12-17 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
10. http://i.imgur.com/supLC.jpg

[identity profile] les-lenne.livejournal.com 2011-12-17 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
How does that even work.

I mean he's a goddamn sword.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-18 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Which brings up the question...does he even have genitals? Or consider himself a certain gender? Hell, does he even consider himself human while in a human form?

[identity profile] les-lenne.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
It certainly looks like he has genitals. There's an obvious bulge between his legs. (http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda14/Characters/Ghirahim-Screen-Large.jpg) But, uh. I don't think he considers himself human, seeing as he constantly insults the human race. :/ Although he could easily call himself "Lady Ghirahim", I guess -- but he doesn't! Not to mention he seems to absolutely adore his true form (http://www.videogameszone.de/screenshots/667x375/2011/11/Zelda_Skyward_Sword_Tempel_7_Loesung__7__111129140535.jpg) ... which kind of completely defeats secret!OP's theory.

[identity profile] yucari.livejournal.com 2011-12-17 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
... but...

he's a sword...
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[identity profile] toshi-hakari.livejournal.com 2011-12-17 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if anyone told you yet... but he's a sword :P

(Anonymous) 2011-12-17 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Sword dude. A very macho sword too.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-17 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
...Macho? Really? 0_o

(Anonymous) 2011-12-18 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
His true form, though I probably wouldn't call it "macho", is pretty masculine compared to the one he normally takes.
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[identity profile] cimikat.livejournal.com 2011-12-17 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, good for you I guess. Personally I don't think gender identity has any real relevance to his character at all, especially once he reveals his true form. Either way, Ghirahim was a fantastic villain.
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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Which way? I mean, last I knew (and I could be wrong) trans meant born one gender but identifying as the other. So you mean she's born/sworded/whatever male but wants to be female or the other way around? How does that work if the character isn't even really human?

(Anonymous) 2011-12-18 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I kinda doubt that because for one thing, he's a demon and who knows how the hell they function, so thinking of him in terms of human gender identification is silly. Secondly he's a sword, as several people have already pointed out.

Lastly even if he was a human I would just consider him to be flamboyant, not transsexual. I don't consider his outfit to be feminine just because it's skin-tight, and there's nothing else about him that would make me believe that there's any sort of gender confusion with him.

Just my two cents.

[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
This miiiight just me being weird/ignorant, but if you were a MTF trangendered person...why would you want to emphasize your very clearly masculine chest by cutting out a hole right over it?

(Anonymous) 2011-12-18 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Unless OP thinks said character is a FtM transgendered person, in which case wanting to show off one's newly masculine chest is not that unbelievable.

/anon knows nothing about this fandom and is just hypothesizing

(Anonymous) 2011-12-18 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly, I can't help but think the OP thinks Girahim is MtF for the sole reason that he is pretty and effeminate. >_>

[identity profile] ryttu3k.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The character is the living embodiment of a sword, basically. There's another character, Fi, like it in the same game (his counterpart) who looks quite a bit like his true form, and the producer of the game has said that Fi is genderless but has a feminine form. It's basically implied that Ghirahim (the character in the secret) has the same deal, only with a masculine form (and maybe identity - he refers to himself as 'Lord Ghirahim' and for all intents and purposes presents as male).

Unless the trans part is that Ghirahim is effectively sexless but has a male gender identity and presentation, I'm really not sure what the OP is getting at *shrug*

[identity profile] lashiec.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Gender identity has no relevance to this character, sorry to say.

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[identity profile] lolofielding.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
He's a sword, yo.

[identity profile] ryttu3k.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
To, um, play devil's advocate - perhaps the OP is using 'trans' here as transgender, not transsexual? Which can also include things like genderqueer, agender, basically other gender identities. But honestly, the only way I can see this working is if Ghirahim started out physically androgynous and deliberately chose a male gender identity and presentation (and... maybe anatomy? Hylia knows how all that works!).

But really. Sword. Not sure how you'd go about working out Ghirahim's sex or gender there, and we don't know how much of his presentation is choice.

[identity profile] lolofielding.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
But honestly, the only way I can see this working is if Ghirahim started out physically androgynous and deliberately chose a male gender identity and presentation (and... maybe anatomy? Hylia knows how all that works!).

I actually beat the Fire Sanctuary again this afternoon and noticed when Ghirahim confronts you he refers to himself as "a busy boy". So I guess he has some personal thoughts on what his own gender is or maybe what he chose to be like in that form if he had a choice but...still...just attempting to get my head around how a living sword works like that is a tough one. 0_o

So I'm just sticking with; sword.

[identity profile] ryttu3k.livejournal.com 2011-12-18 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
...Heh, yeah, 'sword' is definitely the easiest way to explain things there!