[ SECRET POST #1817 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1817 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

17. http://i.imgur.com/jNOJb.png

[yucari.livejournal.com]

Sooooo, you are either unstable enough to potentially go postal without someone holding you back, or the only thing holding someone back FROM going postal?

That's not healthy. Get out of that relationship, stat. And seek help if necessary.

Or you could just quit using trollmance terms for actual IRL relationships.

[(Anonymous)]

It's usually not to the extent of going "going postal" with us humans, but mutually beneficial relationships between a more and less aggressive person are not that unheard of. None of the troll relationships are, we just don't culturally give them equal significance with romantic love.

[yucari.livejournal.com]

That's not moirallegiance, though. The whole point of moirallegiance is that it's designed to keep troll society functional by making sure that overly aggressive trolls (that is, basically all trolls) stay in line. Humans don't have the same cultural neuroses that would make moirallegiance a necessity or even a possibility for them.

[fm-gatekeeper.livejournal.com]

Isn't that exactly what the OP said in the first part of their secret? That humans don't technically have it but they find what they have to be a human equivalent?

[cleverthylacine]

Yeah, because Nepeta is totally in danger of committing mass murder without Equius. I have always viewed moirallegiance as a committed friendship in which you help each other make better choices, which could include not killing half the people you know, but doesn't have to, on the grounds that not all trolls are inclined to fuck up in exactly the same ways.

Not every troll is Gamzee; some of them are perfectly happy to exercise whatever violent inclinations they may have in activities like hunting animals or roleplaying (without killing their RP partners, unless they're Vriska who is generally considered to be more than a little off kilter).

[fm-gatekeeper.livejournal.com]

I'm only sort of familiar with this fandom but I'm going to agree with this. I know that I, personally, have a very bad temper. I once made my girlfriend burst into tears by getting rage-y at someone while driving (I didn't do anything dangerous but she has anxiety so me getting that angry while driving scared her very badly, and as soon as she got visibly upset I pulled over and we talked about it), and she often has to prevent me from rolling down windows to yell at jaywalkers on the street (we live in a small college town where people will jaywalk right in front of your car while texting, for fuck's sake, and it pisses me off). I have a tendency to rant a lot just to deal with how angry I get at other people on a daily basis. She really, really helps to balance me out, partially because I know she has anxiety and therefore if I get too angry she'll get upset, which is something I want to avoid. I'd like to think our relationship is healthy considering we communicate very well and always try to be respectful of each other's feelings.

It sounds to me like what they were saying was that they have a basic human equivalent of the same idea, which is healthier than the troll version? I dunno.

[(Anonymous)]

Hi, this is the OP. To be clear: this is a happy secret! She's my best friend. She and I have been through a lot together, good and bad. I'm comparing our relationship to moirallegiance because each of us knows just how to calm the other down when times are tough. That's all.

[cleverthylacine]

I'm in the same boat and think all these people who are bagging on you need to get over it, because frankly, even in the Homestuck canon not all moirails are Karkat and freakin' Gamzee. I mean seriously, I hardly think it's necessary for anyone to stop Nepeta from becoming a mass murderer.

[(Anonymous)]

Is this some sort of Homestuck thing? Because I have no idea what this secret is saying.

[(Anonymous)]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I actually think moirallegiance is quite close to an emotion that humans are capable of feeling. Maybe it's not as extreme as it is in troll society, but because of this term, I've started noticing the differences between the people I call my "best friends" and the one person I call my "moirail."

And maybe that makes me crazy too, but hey, at least you're not alone, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

(OP) Yup, that's what I'm saying. I think moirallegiance is just a distorted form of a type of friendship that actually exists. You don't have to be ACTUALLY LITERALLY keeping someone from becoming a serial killer to know just how to help them put things in perspective when they're being irrational, or to spend hours with them dissecting a complicated feeling you're having.

[(Anonymous)]

If the both of you are so fucked up that you need a moirallegiance, in the first place, you should probably go submit yourself to a hospital before you start killing people.

[(Anonymous)]

Amen OP
yucari go fuck yourself

[abominablebebop.livejournal.com]

Technically, sure, but Hussie had to get the inspiration from somewhere. Troll romance is far from original! The same concepts have been floating around for basically ever, he just condensed them and slapped on card suits.

[teira-chan.livejournal.com]

H-Ha, I'm...sort of in the same boat there anon. 'w' I feel weird admitting it because I know the fandom has a bad view of people who compare IRL relationships to trollmance...

Does it count if I'm more dangerous to myself than anyone around me, though?

[netbug009.livejournal.com]

But I thought humans kind of did. I mean, the wiki talks about is being closely related to/inspired by Storge love, which is a family like/protective bond.

Not to mention, two people balancing each other out and forming a bond from that isn't very strange.... It's probably the quadrant not counting regular old <3 romance that I feel the least weirded out by people saying they have one of IRL.

[djmayhem-aubrey.livejournal.com]

I'm in sort of the same boat, OP. Obviously not to the point where I'm going to go around hurting people, but I sometimes get REALLY intensely angry/upset about things, and while I generally calm down quickly anyway, I calm down a lot quicker if my boyfriend is around to talk to me or let me rant at him. And same goes for him, I can calm him down if he's angry or upset about something.