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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-12-24 03:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #1817 ]

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-12-25 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't feel that way. I've honestly not read many fantasy coming of age stories that were better. Most books that have long volumes tend to get pretentious and self-righteous and way too self-aware, and I've never been more happy with a YA series that didn't. I do think they're simply written, but I prefer that style for YA.

I've always really hated when people say that some fanfiction should be canon. Usually that fanfiction is written in a completely different style, in a completely different tone, and would suffer from the same treatment canon gets if it were canon. Not to mention that in fanfiction, the hard part, world-building, character, character dynamics, is already done. I will totally give you kudos for brilliant writing, but I'm not going to praise your ability to interpret what's already there.

There is some amazing fanfic, though.

[identity profile] the-glow-worm.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you! There is some amazing fanfiction out there, but for me it will just never compare to the canon. There's even some fanfic where I think the writing is technically better, but I'll prefer the canon every time (for HP, at least :P)

(Anonymous) 2011-12-25 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
This, basically, although I do think JKR's imagination outstrips her technical ability by a good mile. She had a compelling story to tell, and was able to create a world that fascinated tens of millions, but she did frequently bungle the execution.

As you said, though, so much of the work has already been done for the fanfic authors that it isn't really a fair comparison at all.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-12-25 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's definitely what I meant when I said (with a lack of clarity) they, and I meant the series, were simply written. She did have a lot of plot holes and other things. But I feel like the more you can ignore them, based on something else in the book, the better it is. I could do a lot of hand-waving with HP, more than I can with other YA series.

[identity profile] miss-makiba.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I don't know about the hard part being the world-building and characters/character dynamics. Every original story I've ever written or tried to write has that completed, because brainstorming and outlining are so much easier for me than writing it out. Of course, this is just me. :)
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-12-25 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure many people feel like different parts of writing are difficult, and I probably shouldn't have been so general in the ease of writing aspect. I hate writing but once I know the lay of the land as it were, writing feels like a breeze. I can't outline worth shit, tbh.

However, that was only one aspect of what I meant. I also meant that a fanfic author has to spend less time making sure the audience knows what they mean. If you start a sentence with "Hermione decided not to do any studying for the week," you've automatically set up an aspect of your plot (what the fuck is wrong with Hermione), or your tone (or your pace even) right there. You do that in original fiction and all the audience really has is a fact. You have to expand upon the sentence to give your audience an idea of what's going on. Furthermore, it is far easier for an audience to like your plot, when they 90% guaranteed already like at least some of your characters and their interactions, and they already feel some fondness for the world in which they live, especially since the fanfiction fans look at is usually self-selected to what they found interesting already, in the originial. I was saying that the hard part of winning over your audience was done.

[identity profile] miss-makiba.livejournal.com 2011-12-25 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
And that I agree with. :) If nothing else, the marketing is largely taken care of for your story, because fanfiction is a less risky commitment than original fic. Thank you for explaining your point further!
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2011-12-25 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind at all, since I was being unclear. Happy Holidays, if you're celebrating!