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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-02 12:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #1826 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1826 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Labyrinth]


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[Madlax]


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[The Meek, String Theory]


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[The Baby-sitters Club]


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[Shitsurakuen]


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[Infernal Devices]


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[Midsomer Murders]


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[Matilda]


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[Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame]


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[My Chemical Romance]


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[Code Geass]


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[The Hobbit]


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[Howl's Moving Castle]


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[The 99]


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[Due South]


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Notes:

Early because New Year's stuff to do. (:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 143 secrets from Secret Submission Post #261.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 3 - posted twice ], [ 4 - secrets moved to regular post ], [ 1 - it's not a secret if you SIGN it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-02 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
OP.

Yeah, I ended up side-eying this series so hard at the ending. For one, it definitely presented itself as a shoujo-ai/yuri series, and then did not deliver on that at all. And then with Kaharu being a villain, instead of it coming across as a commentary on a misogynistic society turns women misogynistic themselves, it just seemed more like 'lol girls always treat other girls worse than boys treat them!' There was no real explanation as to why Kaharu idealized this misogynistic world, consider she loved Sora -- wouldn't her ideal world been one based on misandry? Idgi.

I hated how the girls had to forgive the guys though. THAT was the worst part. Like, um, no. Just no.

Unfortunately, I submitted this secret when I'd only just started reading the manga, when my enthusiasm was really high. I thought it, like Utena, would serve as an interesting societal criticism, and would deconstruct some tropes, but apparently not. And we didn't even get any yuri as a consolation prize. :|

(Anonymous) 2012-01-02 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
...You don't know about Chapter 24, do you?

Tsuki and Sora end up married in the end. there was yuri, just not a harem.

[identity profile] eyepatchmcgee.livejournal.com 2012-01-02 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
that is at least a SMALL consolation!

(Anonymous) 2012-01-03 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I believe the whole of Chapter 24 was all about Tsuki and Sora older, and then Sora and Tsuki got married and Tsuki was finally happy with life because it was a promise that Sora'd always be there, which her greatest fear was that she'd never have Sora.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-04 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I had no idea this even happened ... I'll have to hunt it down now.

[identity profile] eyepatchmcgee.livejournal.com 2012-01-02 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah haha, the manga gave me WHIPLASH. I was like oh okay...Kaharu is the bad guy because...um. things? yeah at the start i was SUPER enthusiastic, and by the end my smile just fell off my face.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-03 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
When you say "Kaharu" you mean Aoi Tsuki, don't you?
For a second I though you were talking about a different manga.

Anyway, someone already pointed Tsuki and Sora end married and I also want to point it wasn't a commentary on a misogynistic society turns women misogynistic themselves or "lol girls always treat other girls worse than boys treat them".

Tsuki was messed up, her motivations weren't clear enough (I blame the rushed ending) but all in all she only cared about herself and her "paradise" and for that she would hurt anyone, man or woman. Hell, she did even hurt Sora so that would turn Sora in her perfect "knight".

(Anonymous) 2012-01-03 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much this.

It wasn't a narrative about misogyny, after all. It was about how people aren't willing to see past their own wants. Tsuki was obsessed with getting what she wanted, and she only cared about that. She ruined her caretaker's life for no reason other than he got in her way, despite how KIND he was. She scarred and traumatized Sora for daring to talk to a boy who might give her a less naive but still kind view of the world, because Sora "belonged" to her.

And yet, no one complains that Sora technically ends up forgiving and marrying the very person who's responsible for the scar on her face, and who manipulated her greatly through the course of the story. It's kind of hypocritical that people are complaining about the boys being forgiven, when Tsuki was not only forgiven, but Sora marries her. Tsuki never regrets any of it, unlike some of the boys did (some of them being just as broken as the girls).