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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-06 07:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #1830 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1830 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Masterchef Australia]


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03.
[Grimm]


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[Cracked.com]


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[Stargate Universe]


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06.
[Skulduggery Pleasant]


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[Young Justice]


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[Chobits]


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[Sailor Moon, Howard Stern]


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[The Wonder Years/How I Met Your Mother]


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[Community]


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[Homestuck]


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13.
[Nutcracker, Motion Picture]


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[David Archuleta]


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[Love Actually]


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[itskingsleybitch]


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18. [repeat]


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19.
[FFVII]


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[Shake it Up/Bones]


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21.
[Sherlock Series 1]


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[Pokemon]


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23. [repeat]


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24.
[Hatoful Boyfriend]


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[Wonder Woman]


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[James Deen]


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[The Iron Giant]


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[Code Geass]


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[Code Geass]


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[Code Geass]


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[Code Geass]


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32. [SPOILERS for Dead Rising 2: Off The Record]



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33. [SPOILERS for Skyrim]



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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for mentions of rape]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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[identity profile] twistedbones.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Ah yes. I do understand that. I get why some people like him for being exactly how he is, but I find it so incredibly hard to like him because I just can't make him fit into how I view Sherlock Holmes.
And the fact that he is indeed capable of caring about some people just makes his careless manipulating and treatment of others that much worse to me.

It's entirely different with for example Moriarty. He's set up to be the bad guy and that's why I can enjoy his character, but Sherlock Holmes is still "coded" as the good guy for me and so I can't really come to terms with him behaving like he does.
And I just find it irritating that he's not called out on his behaviour a lot more. He gets away with too much IMO, even if he is the "hero of the show".

But that's just me.

This is a bit OT but I really don't mind people who like him, that would be silly. But the overwhelming majority of the fandom (I can't really speak for livejournal but it's certainly like that on tumblr) just seem to disregard the fact that he's been horrible to literally every single person in the show at least once and make him into someone who either just doesn't understand all these human interactions, the poor sod or someone who just needs a good hug and a cuddle to get him out of his bad moods, and dear god, it makes me want to bang my head against a wall.
If you (as in the general you) want to like his character, go ahead. But at least admit he is insufferable.

[identity profile] lolofielding.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
I do get that and I know that once you've fallen in love with a certain interpretation of the character (or the 'canon' version as yours is) it's hard to love another so vastly different. An example for me would be Depp's version of Willy Wonka in the Tim Burton remake. I absolutely despise his cold, aloof and quite sociopathic attitude - even though it's supposedly closer to the book - mostly because I was so in love with Gene Wilder's subtle manipulative but still warm interpretation.

As for Sherlock...yeah, sometimes he really does overstep the mark to the point that it's amazing people are still willing to be around him. Like the scene with Molly at the Christmas party. Good god, was that hard to watch. And yeah, no one calls him out apart from Molly herself (I guess the others have just come to expect that behaviour from him) but to be fair, Sherlock looks genuinely embarrassed and sorry for what he does. And I think that shows he is learning, albeit in veeery small doses.

But yeah, as much as I love to watch him and root for him as 'the hero', I have to admit that he is an arsehole. And anyone who denies how malicious he can be must be watching a different show. To be honest, that's the problem I've had with a lot of the fanfics I've read since getting into this show. So many seem to get Sherlock as, like you say, just some kind of broken bird or naive innocent that it's so hard to get into.

[identity profile] tweedisgood.livejournal.com 2012-01-07 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Not just you. What I find amazing is a comment I read from the writers that they think this version is "more human" or somehow nicer than canon Holmes.

To which my response is a lovely word I picked up from my eldest: "Saywhatnow?"