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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-10 07:26 pm

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[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-01-11 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Going back to school is what makes you not a loser. Even if you still don't make money out of the knowledge you gain you still become smarter.

I agree with this to a point in that you aren't a loser if you go back to school. But after reading all these horror stories about people who got screwed over by student loans and ended up with degrees that were little more than a $50,000+ piece of toilet paper as far as the job market is concerned, I can understand why so many are hesitant to go back.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-01-11 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Well it really depends what school you're going to and what you're studying. I work with this lady who is getting her "Master's" in HR Management (or something along those lines) at the University of Phoenix (one of those fly-by-night for-profit schools) and has tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan debt and hasn't even finished yet. And she's so sure she's going to get a job that pays decently enough.

On the other hand, you can take classes at a community college that teach you job-related skills like C++ or how to use Microsoft Office Suite or that train you for specific careers like Paralegal or Business Administration, and it's relatively cheap compared to a four-year program. I don't know exactly how employable that can make you but I work in an HR office and I see a lot of people in positions making $30,000/yr + benefits that have little more than a GED and an associate's degree (sometimes their transcript reflects only a few courses, so they haven't even earned an associate's degree yet). They aren't making tons of money but they have job security and a decent wage

Also, I'm convinced at this point that MBAs are basically worthless yet people keep scrambling to get them, almost every school has an MBA program, too

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-01-11 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, first two things to check when school-shopping is whether the school is even accredited (a lot of these for-profit schools like Strayer and Phoenix aren't), and what the industry you're trying to get into thinks of the school you have your eye on.

Right now I'm looking into certificates for A+ and Network+, because I already have a BA from a state university. Certificates will help me get more than part-time retail way more than a master's will.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-01-11 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in the same exact boat right now. I have a BA in history from a state university in my home state, and I'm trying to decide between two different paralegal certificate programs here in Austin. One is ABA-approved and the other isn't, but I haven't been able to get a straight answer from anyone as to whether or not the ABA approval is worth the extra $3000 cost (from what I can surmise, it's better to go with the ABA-approved program if you ever plan on moving to another state and finding work as a paralegal there). The non ABA-approved program is at the local community college and their website says that they place a heavy emphasis on job placement in the program, but basically I'm wary of investing my money in anything right now. If I do go back to school I'm going to save up at least half of the tuition price before I even attend because I really don't feel like adding to my existing student loan debt, and really I'm skeptical of spending my money on education of any kind at this point

/tl;dr
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-01-11 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh I can't even delete my comments anymore, much less edit them, what the fuck

Anyway I was going to add that CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS SEEM TO BE THE WAY TO GO all around -- you don't invest as much money as you would in a Master's and the emphasis is on specific job-related skills. And employers actually specify that they are looking for people with certain certifications in job listings, rather than someone with any kind of degree

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-01-11 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Everyone in my desired field (information technology/security) is looking for CompTIA A+ certification at the bare minimum (if you don't have it, your app goes straight to the round file). Network+ and Security+ are what actually make you stand out.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-01-11 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
GAH I wish I had any aptitude for that line of work. IT is just Greek to me, and it sucks because now I am living in a tech hub and there are tons of job openings here for IT specialists, software engineers, systems analysts, programmers, etc. but I SUCK AT MATH uggghh. I know a lot of these jobs don't start off paying that well or have horrible hours and are not that rewarding but still, there's actual job security

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-01-11 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Speaking of which, you seem to be having a lot of issues with the new comment system. Are you by chance running the Greasemonkey extension for Firefox?
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-01-11 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
No, but I use Chrome most of the time now

Also I need to start browsing this comm under my style. It used to take a lot longer for the comment threads to load in my style than the default livejournal style, but not anymore since they changed everything. But old habits are hard to break.

Also my computer's like seven years old and that doesn't help

[identity profile] dorknessrising.livejournal.com 2012-01-11 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. I ask because Greasemonkey was apparently breaking things all over the place for lots of people.

What's funny is Chrome won't even run on my computer anymore. At all. It'll install, but it won't launch because the program is installing to my AppData folder instead of the C:\Program Files (x86) folder. So I switched back to Firefox. I suspect a recent Windows 7 update broke something.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-11 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
This x1000. I have been at uni for 2 years and only just found out that y degree is worthless unless I major in Japanese (which could get me a job as a teacher overseas) or tourism (which is apparently struggling to find people to fill positions). So yeah, it was pretty disheartening learning that some of my friends who graduated are now stuck with a piece of paper that means nothing and an education that is seen as worthless by the industries they are interested in becoming a part of.