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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-10 07:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #1834 ]

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[identity profile] neoyi.livejournal.com 2012-01-13 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
(Damn the post number limit. XD)

"Well, that's my point. Pretty much all of his shining moments were in the beginning multi-parter. After that, he's pretty much a joke. But their 'badguy of the week' take of the Decepticons makes everything feel super washed out anyway. I'll entirely give TFA credit for that. I loved the fact that they wanted to stay away from dumbing the 'Cons down into bad guys of the week."

Ahh, I see. In which case, I lend my agreement because I feel the same. Weirdly though, I wanted to see more Starscream as badguy of the week. Mainly because 1.) I adore Prime!Starscream. 2.) Because I think the idea of him gradually failing to what he ends up in "Partners" might have been more natural. I honestly thought Megatron would not awaken till the season finale and I still wished it did; would have been more awesome. That and the writers probably could have held off Unicron much later. Seriously, they used the TF Devil in the Season One finale AND made it so that he's basically Earth (which I still think is stupid). What if they want to create something even more epic by the last episode? They likely wrote themselves into a corner with that! Er...but I digress. XD

"Considering the fact that TFA was pretty firmly a kooky kid's show that slathered on the comedy thick, it's really sad that the Decepticons there were much more menacing bad guys than the overly dramatic standard that TFP pulls out."

Not that I'm accusing you of this, but I never understood why it should really matter if something is too childish or lighthearted. A nicely written series is a nicely written series and TFA is a nicely written series. Biased opinion maybe because currently, TFA is my personal favorite incarnation of Transformers (and actually, having TFA lighthearted actually does make their darker moments more horrifying: Oh, god, BLURR). But hey, even the two-part Rescue Bots actually impressed the hell out of me more than Transformers Prime entire first season. Honestly, I know this is going to sound, well, weird, but I think TF Prime went a bit too ambitious for its own good.

[identity profile] joules-burn.livejournal.com 2012-01-13 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Mainly because 1.) I adore Prime!Starscream. 2.) Because I think the idea of him gradually failing to what he ends up in "Partners" might have been more natural. I honestly thought Megatron would not awaken till the season finale and I still wished it did; would have been more awesome.

This would have been interesting and could have been lovingly gradual and psychological. In Rock Bottom and Partners Starscream seriously unravels. There is a bit of lead up to that and his desperation, but it could have been fleshed out. Prime!Scream is seriously adorable and contradictory. What I really would have liked was maybe an escalating sense of danger to the Autobots. It never really feels like anything is going to happen to them. Between Super Samurai Ranger Wheeljack making them all look like chumps and Roids Rage Ratchet (who I wouldn't trade for the world), I was spending way too much time wondering if Arcee was right and the Autobots should just end this whole war crap. I mean, they were wiping the floor with them every time. The only wall they seemed to hit was Megatron, who was so amazingly unconcerned I also count that as one of his best moments.

Seriously, they used the TF Devil in the Season One finale AND made it so that he's basically Earth (which I still think is stupid). What if they want to create something even more epic by the last episode?

I'm not sure how they'll top Unicron. Or what he could have been. Honestly, he felt more like a game boss battle. Especially with all the random encounters battles.

[identity profile] neoyi.livejournal.com 2012-01-13 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
"Roids Rage Ratchet (who I wouldn't trade for the world)"

I love Roid Ratchet for one especially wonderful thing. He punched Megatron IN. THE. FACE. :D

"I'm not sure how they'll top Unicron. Or what he could have been. Honestly, he felt more like a game boss battle. Especially with all the random encounters battles."

Let's face it. This show really, really lacks subtly.

[identity profile] joules-burn.livejournal.com 2012-01-13 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I love Roid Ratchet for one especially wonderful thing. He punched Megatron IN. THE. FACE. :D

I loooove TFP Ratchet. And especially everything about that scene. He punched Megatron IN. THE. FACE. And Megatron made the shit get real and Ratchet obviously knew it. That episode and the Scraplets one is probably my favorite as far as full episodes go. They were just so hilarious and successful. It felt like they had way more fun making those cohesive.

Let's face it. This show really, really lacks subtly.

It lacks subtlety while really feeling like it thinks it has subtlety. I kind of wish they'd used their comedy more. They were pretty successful when they did comedy.

[identity profile] neoyi.livejournal.com 2012-01-13 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
"That episode and the Scraplets one is probably my favorite as far as full episodes go. They were just so hilarious and successful. It felt like they had way more fun making those cohesive."

"Scrapheap" isn't one of my particular favorite, but I really do like the horror aspect of it (also, yeah, Girly scream Bulkhead is actually pretty funny). Because shit son, watching Transformers basically getting eaten alive is a scary thing. Good of the animators for showing that off so well.

I think my favorite episode is "Predatory". It's the episode where I felt the team got it. And it went on pretty well for like two more episodes, then it plummeted back to meh.

[identity profile] joules-burn.livejournal.com 2012-01-13 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I think my favorite episode is "Predatory". It's the episode where I felt the team got it. And it went on pretty well for like two more episodes, then it plummeted back to meh.

Predatory was good, and Airachnid was interesting there. She was sort of filling the Lockdown bounty hunter roll, but that didn't pan out in the end.

Granted, this doesn't remedy the fact that much of Season One was basically the Arcee Show. I think overall, I would have appreciated long term if, ya know, the writers developed the other characters along with Arcee.

This was probably pretty much the issue. Given that half the other characters were little cardboard popsicle sticks, most of the time I was going 'Shut up, Arcee'. If the other Autobots had been developed enough to actually try and confront her or help her, it might have made everything much more enjoyable. If the others had more than 'I beep a lot' and 'Miko almost gets me killed every week' then it might have had a lot more balance.

Also, she totally replaced Prowl *is a Prowl fan*. XD

And this might be part of my problem with both shows. I hated Prowl in TFA and hated how much the writers loved him to pieces. He was overused to me because I really didn't like him. I don't like the whole RoboChakra Ninja thing- even though that's existed since forever in TF. I just can't stand it. And with Prowl they added all of these elements into one character that kind of had me eye rolling. That show was awesome if you loved Prowl.

If you didn't like Prowl so much, then there's a lot of screen time that's kind of annoying.

I love Knockout. Love him. But I'm stuck deciding if I like him or Soundwave more because I really think Soundwave is badass here.

Soundwave was a massive badass. I did like the subtlety with him. For most of the show, he's almost like a background accessory. But then, push comes to shove and you see that there are reasons why he's so high on the totem pole. It makes me kind of wonder if he was going to do anything against Starscream when they were trying to 'unplug' Megatron earlier in the season.

[identity profile] neoyi.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
"Predatory was good, and Airachnid was interesting there. She was sort of filling the Lockdown bounty hunter roll, but that didn't pan out in the end."

Man, she was awesome. Then she turned into yet another line of generic villain in the series. Such a shame.

"And this might be part of my problem with both shows. I hated Prowl in TFA and hated how much the writers loved him to pieces. He was overused to me because I really didn't like him. I don't like the whole RoboChakra Ninja thing- even though that's existed since forever in TF. I just can't stand it. And with Prowl they added all of these elements into one character that kind of had me eye rolling. That show was awesome if you loved Prowl.

If you didn't like Prowl so much, then there's a lot of screen time that's kind of annoying."


Really? I'm the opposite. They used him a lot in Season One, but in Season 2 and 3, he really wasn't anymore overexposed as the others - I'd say they underplayed him (which makes sense since he was pretty overplayed in Season One).

I'm actually not sure how and why I still love Prowl. I don't care for ninjas, I don't care for the Lancer type, I don't really care for the stoic characters either. In fact, I tend to like the nice guys like Optimus Prime (and boy do I adore TFA Optimus). I think Prowl's character type have largely fallen in my "Exceptions to the Rule" list.

"Soundwave was a massive badass. I did like the subtlety with him."

Note to writers: Don't ever, EVER let Soundwave talk unless it's his final appearance. When he'll say some final words that means a lot. Please, writers, pleaaaaaaaase.