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uh i don't get that

surely calling a man "girly" is only insulting because they're not actually girls, so it's kind of saying "haha you fail at being a man"

like how most girls (IRL!!!!!) would get upset at being called "manly" for the same reasons

it's not about MISOGYNY HOLY SHIT, it's about associating the stereotypically negative traits of each gender to a person who isn't that gender

you don't call a girl manly if she's just expressing her opinion or in a position of authority, like you said that people do. you call a girl manly if she's exhibiting traits such as lack of concern for appearance/fashion and being untidy and unorganized or being really annoying and bossy and brash when they're talking, since those are traits stereotypically associated with men

i guess you could call people into sports "manly" though because sport is something that builds up your muscles and if you see a chick with like d-cup pecs you're all "whoa there"

UNLESS YOU'RE AKIMOTO SAYAKA
IN WHICH CASE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR MUSCLES IS A GIFT FROM WHICHEVER HIGHER POWER YOU BELIEVE IN

Girly-> girl-> child. And it's used to describe things that aren't cool. Manly-> Man-> adult. And it's used to describe things that are cool.

"you call a girl manly if she's exhibiting traits such as lack of concern for appearance/fashion and being untidy and unorganized or being really annoying and bossy and brash when they're talking" Do you really? How rude.

And seriously, why can't a woman be uninterested in fashion, messy, and assertive?

...Actually, there a ton of things bugging me about your comment, but I'm certain other anons will be along shortly.

*adds comprehension-fail note to princesoup's name*

I like this explanation.

The problem with everything you're saying is that it reinforces traditional gender roles in a way that implies "you're not the way we think you should be like and that's a bad thing"

the kind of attitude that gets boys beaten up for wanting to style their hair, and girls who play sports and don't cook get told they'll make terrible wives

Who "girly" is directly used against isn't the point. The problem is that its use as an insult reinforces stereotypical gender roles and the idea that women are inferior and you are inferior if you are like one in any way. It's not just guys who use it or have this mindset, and even if the specific word "girly" isn't used to insult women (though it is when someone is trying to infantilize a woman in an argument or something), women in our society still consider it an insult and consider feminine traits shameful to possess -- how many girls have you known who scramble to assure people that they're "not a girly-girl! I never played with Barbies! I like video games!!!" etc. etc.?

I've also never heard a woman called "manly" for any of the traits you just described, especially the bossiness, obnoxiousness or lack of concern for appearance. Those things get a woman called various permutations of "ugly" and "bitch".

Who "girly" is directly used against isn't the point. The problem is that its use as an insult reinforces stereotypical gender roles

of course using it as an insult is going to have negative consequences
that's the point of using it as an insult
to be negative

if you're not calling someone girly/manly to insult them, then you're just making casual banter like when your mates go "haha you're such a man" or "you'll need to change bathrooms soon lol"

oh but if you don't have friends then uh please try to at least envision the situation???

and the idea that women are inferior and you are inferior if you are like one in any way.

this would be a valid argument IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE FACT THAT WOMEN ALSO DISLIKE BEING CALLED MANLY

men dislike being called girly because they're not girls
women dislike being called manly because they're not men

the general majority of the female population would not take kindly to being seriously told that they're more of a man than a woman, just like the opposite is true for men

so taking your statement, since men dislike being called girly, feminine traits are seen as inferior
and since women dislike being called manly, masculine traits are seen as inferior

women in our society still consider it an insult and consider feminine traits shameful to possess --

you say "our society" but fuck me if where i live is anything like that

i see girls all the time walking about like OH MY GODDD I LOVE CLOOOTHES I'M SUCH A GIRLY-GIRL HAHAAA NIGHT OUT WITH MY GURLFRIENDS and shit because they are ~*proud of who they are*~

maybe if you said it to someone trying to be classy and high-brow in a formal gown it would be an insult, but otherwise...........

how many girls have you known who scramble to assure people that they're "not a girly-girl! I never played with Barbies! I like video games!!!" etc. etc.?

hahaha who the fuck would say that
omg
desperate bitches who need a lad in their lyfffff!!!!1 and make facebook statuses like SINGLE PRINGLE & READY TO MINGLE ON COD ;) and want to seem cool and going against the trend and take pictures of themselves doing ducklips with XBOX controllers on tumblr like YA I PLAY VIDYA GAMES maybe

if some girl came out and said that in my city friends would just leave her
or tell her to park her ass on a chair and simmer the fuck down

I've also never heard a woman called "manly" for any of the traits you just described, especially the bossiness, obnoxiousness or lack of concern for appearance. Those things get a woman called various permutations of "ugly" and "bitch".

yeah, by people who aren't their friends, and they're generic insults that everyone uses for everything

if a person you hated comes up to you all HI I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE FRIENDS WITH YOU HERE'S A MANSION I BOUGHT FOR YOU TO PROVE MY SINCERITY :) then walked off
you would be like "fucking bitch rubbing her wealth in my face like it makes her a better person"

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