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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-16 07:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #1840 ]

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-17 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I hope I don't sound insensitive in any way OP and I don't want you to think I'm taking your disease lightly at all. Sorry in advance if I sound in any way preachy...>>;

My mom had cancer three years ago. It was terminal - pancreas, lives, spleen, colon. Her face varied often between earthly or pale, she was sleepy all day and you could practically see it on her that she didn't have long to live. The doctor were giving her months too.

She's still here now. I'm not sure how cured on the inside but she lives and she looks healthy and only from time to time - when she doesn't sleep properly - she gets liver pains.

She went through a strict diet - strict Like heck. No food for forty days and only herb teas (and many other medicinal and easy to find plants and stuff) and pure water. (and yes at one point she could barely move out of bed and I would often help her move around). She prayed and had faith that whatever God would do, it would be a good enough choice for her. Of course she wanted to live. It was the whole point of the treatment...

She became a vegetarian afterward (and I'm sure you know that the general indication medics give out in case or serious illnesses is to give up meat because it isn't good and proteins only end up feeding diseases) and even now she drinks those herb teas that are known for their therapeutic uses - sage, artichoke, wormwood, mouse tail, horse tail teas. They're bitter but darn effective! (JSYK I'm a lactose-vegetarian and it's totally a livable and even enjoyable existence)

I'm not trying to annoy you or taunt you with impossible things. I am hoping that by reading this message you'll discover some hope. A positive attitude is what counts the most in these cases. Your body is severely influenced by your brain/psychic and you need to lift your spirits up.

Don't give up. Try other things. Natural remedies. You have natural antibiotics, natural cancer fighters (garlic, green tea, lemon skin etc etc). They're just there waiting for you to try them.

ROOTING FOR YOU!

(and again hope I don't offend you in any way with this comment. ><;)

(Anonymous) 2012-01-17 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I know you meant well, but damn it, quit that preachy "positive attitude" crap. Not everyone can do that, and frankly people with cancer have the right to feel any damn well they want to without people telling them to "keep their spirits up". It's seriously not a helpful thing to say to someone.

In addition, I am so glad your mother got better, but there's no evidence that "natural" remedies work better than scientific ones. To OP: do what the fuck you want, live how you want, feel how you want, take what medicines you want. A life cut short doesn't mean it's any less real. You've got what everyone else has ever got: a lifetime.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-17 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
*Not the anon you replied to*

Well, in the other anon's defense, it IS proven that positivity/happiness/general good attitude can have a very significant impact on someone's health. However, for the most part, I agree with you. Also, I'm a third year pre-med student so perhaps I'm biased, but at that stage of cancer I would strongly recommend staying with actual medication. Natural remedies can work miracles, but they do not work for everyone (everyone's body is chemically different) and even if they did work, with three months to live with inoperable cancer, they probably wouldn't act quickly enough to save OP's life. OP, you would be better off getting a second opinion (I'm sure your doctors have done everything in their power, but sometimes it's good to get different input as different things work for different people), or if you are tired of fighting and want to accept the fact that you're going to die, then there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that. It's your life, it should be up to you.

Whatever happens, I'm so sorry and I wish the best for you. I hope that you find peace... and just know that you ARE real. <3

(Anonymous) 2012-01-18 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck you, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. That Anon's comment was perfect.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-17 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, fuck you. When my father was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, he was told to be grateful for every day he woke up. Instead, we remained positive, convinced he could beat it. And you know what happened? Because we were all so sure that he would beat the odds, when he passed away, we were left with guilt, regrets and crippling grief. We never said goodbye, we left everything unasked and so much left unsaid and I stopped functioning for around six months because I couldn't accept the fact that he was gone.

Positive thinking did more damage to my family than accepting the facts would have. So fuck you so very hard.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-18 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck off and don't take his death out on that Anon who was just being positive. Everything works differently for everybody. So fuck you, too~

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-01-25 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
I understand your anger, but I don't think you're in the right telling that person to fuck off. They acknowledged it might not be everybody's thing, they realized it could come across preachy, and they spent a good deal of space explaining themselves.

And, before you tell me to fuck off too, my mother died seven months after she was diagnosed with leukemia; she was all of 57. We had no reason to think she wouldn't either live longer or beat it, too, and I can honestly say that trying to stay positive did my sister and I more good than throwing our hands up and just accepting she was headed for the cemetery. Yes, her death was disappointing, but we dealt with it the best we could, knowing that toward the end, when she needed us to be cheerful and helpful at the right times, we really tried to be.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2012-01-25 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about natural remedies, but a friend's mother had stage 4 lung cancer and was really close to certain death. In desperation, the parents flew to Germany for a treatment they'd heard about - that was 2-3 years ago, and while her mother has once again regressed to late-stage cancer, whatever the treatment was DID work briefly and kept her alive and feeling better for those many years longer. I don't know that this works for everyone, but it did for her.

Still, someone who can't get to Germany or can't follow your suggestion, or just feels so horrible they don't want to try, shouldn't feel bad about that. As someone else said, they need to feel however their illness makes them feel. And they're not a failure if they don't "beat" cancer (which you didn't say, but I get annoyed with the American Cancer Society ads sometimes that seem to come across that way - I know, it's dumb of me, but it's what it is).