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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-16 07:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #1840 ]

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-17 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know what country you're from, but if it's in Europe and isn't Italy or Spain, then it's not going to be much different in small towns, either. People in Europe have been moving further and further away from religion in modern times.

In the U.S., the exact opposite is going on. I don't want to say it's difficult being an atheist in the States, but it's certainly not expected like it is where you live. Even if you're only a twice-a-year (Easter and Christmas) or three-times-in-your-life church-goer (baptism, wedding, and funeral), it's still expected of you to believe in something and at the very least identify as Christian. And people's reactions to hearing that you are atheist, or even agnostic, will range from mild confusion to being deeply offended and determined to convert you.

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-01-17 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'm Argentinian. This is a mostly Catholic country, but religion seems to be a more... cultural thing, I guess? Like, you celebrate Christmas and stuff but only few people actively practice. And most young people (or at least, middle-class young people, in my experience) are very critical of religion. I went to a Catholic uni and no one cared I'm not a Christian, for example.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-17 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, that's interesting. Because I always heard about many South American countries having a very heavy emphasis on religion. Learn something new every day.

To be honest, though, being an atheist in the U.S. is really more awkward than it is genuinely difficult, and the backlash tends to come from the adults (especially the elderly) more than your peers. Many young people here are also walking away from the church.

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-01-17 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
It really depends on the country. In my experience, Argentina and Uruguay are the less religious of South America. I think it has to do with being immigrants' countries and the influence European and European-oriented intellectuality had here. Or so we are told. It maybe a big city thing, too. Or maybe because our Church fucked up big time when it came to defend democracy and humans rights... IDK. But it's pretty laid back here. Last year, when same-sex marriage was approved, there was some opposition from the right (and that means the Church) but most people seemed to be for it. Now it seems we are going to discuss abortion and I think that will be a tough debate, tbh, because while most people think that marriage is a civil matter that can be linked to religion but it's not only religious, abortion touches our ideas of life and all that.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-22 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Just as an alternative perspective, I went to a Catholic high school in the US, and I can't think of anyone who cared that there were atheists there.

I just don't like the idea that somehow all American Christians are evangelizing douches, or that Catholic schools are so intolerant towards other religions. In particular, the later I haven't seen any pressure to convert at all. Yes, they are required to attend the school masses, like any other student, but there's a difference between going to a school assembly and forcing you to believe it.

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-01-22 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this perspective. I'll be honest, I've heard horror stories about being and Atheist in the US and I was honestly surprised.

In my uni, we weren't expected to go to mass or anything. The graduation ceremony included one, though, but we didn't have to actively participate in it if we didn't want to.