[ SECRET POST #1840 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1840 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I hesitate to judge people for this, though-- it's their education system. I'm American and I had never heard of interment camps in America in WWII until I was in college. And our version of WWII in high school? "The rest of the world was being all crazy and stuff and nazis and so we dropped a nuke on Japan and won the war."

And when I responded to my history teacher with something along the lines of "uh, if the Germans were the Nazis, why did we bomb Japan?" and she sneered at me and ignored the question.

I honestly wonder if she even knew.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

And when I responded to my history teacher with something along the lines of "uh, if the Germans were the Nazis, why did we bomb Japan?" and she sneered at me and ignored the question.

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm American and I had never heard of interment camps in America in WWII until I was in college. And our version of WWII in high school? "The rest of the world was being all crazy and stuff and nazis and so we dropped a nuke on Japan and won the war

damn, really? we had to learn a shit ton about WWII where I was going to school (in Texas). I think we even watched videos about the internment camps

[valenciapilgrim.livejournal.com]

I don't remember when I learned about interment camps...but I agree with the sentiment of what you are saying here. And I don't EVER remember any teacher in high school bringing up the question of if we really *needed* to nuke Japan and (for good measure) firebomb the shit out of them too. It could have happened, grant you, I just don't remember. In high school I had one history teacher who was so far beyond amazing I can't even begin to explain (I will say that I aced a ton of college classes without ever cracking a book just by remembering what he taught us)...and one who had his head so far up his ass that no one literally ever had any idea what he was talking about, and I think he was eventually fired for perving on the girls volleyball team. So yeah, it's possible that the first guy brought it up and I just don't remember.

For the record, I do remember an assembly when I was in elementary school where a WWII veteran who talked about how he didn't know if it was right for us to bomb Japan or not, and that made a huge impression on me, even when I was so young and didn't really know shit about WWII. But it's very telling that this information came from a veteran and not from a textbook.

[ariseishirou.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I don't judge them for it, hence my eye, not their eye ;p

A lot of Canadian students don't learn anything about their own history except the fur trade and the building of the building of the CPR. I'm consistently shocked when Americans remember the names of people in government who enacted shit, or the names of more than two or three presidents who lived before they were born.

[(Anonymous)]

I assume you're Canadian - I'm this anon here http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/825006.html?thread=516231854#t516231854 and I'm just curious, I don't suppose you had a similar experience at school at all?

I've been trying to figure out if my experience with that was an anomaly or the norm.

[ariseishirou.livejournal.com]

We didn't touch on the Pacific War at all in my high school, really. Just the European theatre. (Though in my school's defense, we did a surprisingly thorough job of the latter.) We learned about the bomb and that there was some Canadian involvement in the physics involved, but it was scarcely a paragraph long.

From the sounds of things though yours was funded by the Japan Foundation. As a Japanese language educator I have all kiiiiiinds of experience with their international cultural publicity campaigns. Yes, it is intentional, and very shrewd. China and India have similar international propaganda efforts but they are nowhere near as successful as the one the Japan Foundation runs - largely because for a while they were supported by the US to improve their image as partner in Asia to help fight the Reds. Now, not so much, but the effect lingers.

[followthemoth.livejournal.com]

I'm a history student so I soaked up everything like a sponge, but yeah, most of my peers in high school just didn't care and didn't listen.

The two things I remember we did the most were the Japanese internment camps, and the war of 1812. Especially the war of 1812. The history teacher was obssessed with that or something.

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

Truth. And it's probably because I was in French immersion, but I swear I know more about French history than I do Canada.

I do think Canadian schools tend to like to hammer in Canadian atrocities, though - lots about oppressing the natives, expelling the Acadians, exploiting Chinese immigrants to build the railway, WWII Japanese internment camps. All I can remember about Canadian history is the awful stuff. I remember a hell of a lot of depressing educational fieldtrips, too - my hometown is near a bunch of former internment camps and one was turned into a museum. Yey fieldtrips.

[deciphre.livejournal.com]

We had to spend an entire unit on those residential schools for the natives, and another part on the internment camps for the Japanese.
Well, that was grade eleven. Sad part is that every single other year we learned about the fur trade and ~Canadian government~.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh no, the horrors. How terrible that you had to learn about the atrocities your government committed against First Nations people.

[deciphre.livejournal.com]

Hm?
Actually, I found it really interesting, since history is one of my favourite units. I also think it's important to be aware of these things, so it's a good thing that these topics are in the curriculum now. Canada's no different than other countries in that it's done questionable things, and making oneself blind to that is idiotic.

[(Anonymous)]

American education on their own history in terms of the atrocities they committed is very shitty. So is Japanese.

I don't know, I think I'm good with blaming the education system and government officials and such that cause it to be so shitty.

[(Anonymous)]

Funny. I'm Canadian, and we covered Japan's and Canada's role in WWII and we were shown a video where they talked about the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and all that, and a lady came on screen and talked about how Canadians should feel more responsibility for it than they do because some of the science involved in creating the bomb was worked on by Canadians.

There was absolutely no mention of the Bataan Death March or the Rape of Nanjing or the Korean comfort women or anything. It was all "The Americans were horrible and mean and the Japanese were just confused and wanted to surrender and then the Americans bombed them."

Mind you, the Japanese history program that they taught us I later found out is all provided and outlined by the Japanese government as some kind of education exchange thing they have figured out.

[(Anonymous)]

I wrote a paper on those internment camps when I was a junior classman in high school. Everybody else wrote theirs on the Japanese and German atrocities. I even did it right around that period of uber-patriotism right after 9/11. I had to explain what it was to my frigging teacher.

[(Anonymous)]

Your teacher didn't know??

*facepalm*

[(Anonymous)]

We actually did cover the internment camps when I was in the 4th (96-97) grade we read Journey to Topaz and with every book we read in that class wrote "journals" (fanfic) based off what we read in the books.

[(Anonymous)]

And our version of WWII in high school? "The rest of the world was being all crazy and stuff and nazis and so we dropped a nuke on Japan and won the war."

Your school sucked. I went to an American school and we covered it. Then again, maybe it's because I went to a private school where we also covered how the North turned the civil war into a battle against slavery because they really wanted the British to help them.