[ SECRET POST #1843 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1843 ⌋


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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 50 secrets from Secret Submission Post #263.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

And in every one of those 'bromances' ever you'll find people who ship it.

And? What the fuck. Fandom does not equal the material it is derivative of. And "someone" shipping it doesn't mean that an overwhelming number of people, um, don't. The number of people who vocally ship gay/lesbian pairings in media is smaller than the number of people who watch and don't ship those pairings. There are also PLENTY of jerks who come round and yell at slash fans with this same line -- "Why can't they just be friiiiiends omg you creepy shippers they're obviously straight!" It's homophobic garbage -- why would it be so bad if they weren't just friends? Why is that so bad? Why would that make people say things like that? Is it that objectionable if a person wants to think of a particular character or set of characters as gay?

Obviously that's not everyones opinion but I've seen a lot of men get reeeally defensive when someone says if two blokes spend time with each other they MUST be gay instead of just good friends.

So have I. I call them "homophobic jackasses" because they make out that it somehow ~wounds them~ that people might see two men acting in a way they feel is romantic and think it might be romantic. If you're that hung up on whether or not someone things two guys are getting it on or not? You've got insecurities and issues -- and probably some homophobia in there.

All you need is that one voice who ships it to annoy someone else who doesn't and shout; "You're seeing stuff that isn't there!"

Yeah, and that someone else is a jackass. Not seeing why being homophobic and refusing to write an actual gay pairing in ONE SHOW is okay because someone might be ~annoyed by a single slash shipper. Do they not get how vastly, incredibly underrepresented LGBT characters are on television? That maybe, just maybe, people often ship same-sex couples because there are no fucking canon ones? JFC.

Not that I assume Gatiss or Moff are like that, I don't know the guys, but I just guess that they want to keep Holmes and Watson's relationship as it was in their beloved canon.

This is especially rich (and again, reeks of some homophobia on Moffat's part - he was the one who made the comment, allegedly, about wanting to keep their relationship as in the books) considering the misogynistic, bullshit changes they made to the character of Irene Adler. You're either going to be faithful to the stories or you're not. Hiding behind "but their relationship isn't like that in the books!" while you're making Irene Adler, adventuress and former opera singer, a bloody dominatrix doesn't track.

And they don't want to feel like they HAVE to make them a couple just for the sake of it.

It wouldn't be "for the sake of it." It would be because these two characters very clearly love each other, possibly in a romantic way. Why is that considered "just for the sake of it"? Would you consider it the same if they had John find a Mary Morstan to marry? Probably not. Of course it's only "petty" and "just because" if it's a gay pairing, right?

[lolofielding.livejournal.com]

I actually do agree with you on all these points, I was just trying to get across the other side of the argument for those who do want Holmes and Watson to stay just friends. Doesn't really effect me either way. I love them as they are now and if they were to get together; awesome. Go show.

Sorry if what I said upset you. It's late, I've had a shit day and I really didn't mean to start an argument.

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

It's cool. I just loathe those arguments hardcore, and there's somebody upthread who is pissing me off with a different awful and homophobic argument, and I just chopped an onion (least favorite cooking chore ever), so I'm a little.. yeah. Augh. :(

[lolofielding.livejournal.com]

Onions are the devil. At least you get your revenge by, y'know, eating them. :P

[fenm.livejournal.com]

I peeled onions for Christmas dinner, and my hands smelled like onions for days... O_O

[lolofielding.livejournal.com]

My mum was peeling some onions the other day and I could smell them, teary eyes and all, from the other room! 0_o Beware the MegaOnions.

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

They really are. They'll be going into a delicious stew, though, so there is some bright side to it. That is, if I ever get all the veggies done and put it on. /grumbles about fandom wank making her dinner late

[lolofielding.livejournal.com]

Love the image of someone slicing veg with one hand while typing fandom comments on their computer with the other. XD Pretty awesome.

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

lolol if only I were so coordinated xD I just keep taking breaks. I'm on the last potato, though! Joy. XD

[loracarol.livejournal.com]

~Random point that has nothing to do with anything actually in the thread or anything~

If you put your onions in the fridge, and only take them out right before cutting them, it helps so much. :D

Also, if you don't have time, the freezer for ~30 minutes will help as well, and make it so you're eyes don't water too much. :)

/I work at a place where we have to cut onions, fridging them helps a lot. :)

[curseangel.livejournal.com]

Oh, wow, thank you for the tip :3 we actually refrigerate our onions as a rule (they go right in the veggie drawer with the rest), but I can try sticking them in the freezer sometime! Somehow our refrigerating them never quite stops them from making me miserable. xD

[loracarol.livejournal.com]

You're welcome!

Yeah, we get huge boxes, so they generally go in the pantry... Maybe it's because we cool them down before cutting them, whereas yours stay one temperature for a while? I'm not too sure...

(Just make sure the onion doesn't *freeze* or it will be hard to cut, lol) :3

[(Anonymous)]

I read this as put your opinions in the fridge...

DEEP

[fenm.livejournal.com]

Whoah, dude, you're messing with my mind!

[loracarol.livejournal.com]

AS DEEP AS MY FISHBOWL BABY.

/whyaminotinbedyet.gif

[jane-dont.livejournal.com]

I've been following this discussion and I feel I have to point out that I don't really understand the whole "you're seeing stuff that isn't there" argument. Of COURSE it isn't there. If it was there, it would just be canon. We're seeing things that aren't there but COULD be there.