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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-19 07:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #1843 ]

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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 50 secrets from Secret Submission Post #263.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
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[identity profile] lolofielding.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
My beef with Irene has nothing to do with shipping preferences. If you'd read my comment above you'd seen that I don't ship Sherlock and John in anything other than BBFS. And I've got nothing against people who ship Sherlock/Irene. I thought the two actors had fantastic chemestry. And to be honest, for most of the episode, I have no problem with Irene. She was badass and I loved how she was able to baffle Sherlock and to see someone best him.

It's just...the ending. From Sherlock using Irene's feelings against her to him then going to save her. As far as I know that wasn't in canon and from what I've been told the whole point of Irene was that she was The Woman who beat him. Except, in the series, she didn't. It seemed almost like a deconstruction of this brilliant character who's reduced to needing Sherlock in the end and him being able to use her feelings for him against her. So it's not really Irene herself as just how the third act of her story was written that annoyed me.

I still prefer her over McAams.

[identity profile] finmagik.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too. That says something. Although personally I think he had feelings for her as well but that's all subjective.

[identity profile] lolofielding.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I think he had feelings for her, I'm just not entirely sure how far those feelings go exactly. Oh Sherlock, why must you be so difficult?

[identity profile] finmagik.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the whole thing. As long the work is canon based and not a parody/pastiche/spin-off you can't have Sherlock do sexual or romantic things on screen. It's a sort of rule.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean like how lesbian dominatrix Irene was so close to her canon counterpart?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The "they can't because of canon" argument really doesn't work anymore.

[identity profile] lolofielding.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
And yet they'll continue to use it. *sigh*

[identity profile] finmagik.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I meant Sherlock Holmes himself. He can't be shown having sexin' on screen. In all the versions I've seen: Rathbone, Brett, Secret life of Sherlock Holmes, 7% solution, RDJ (first movie) BBC. He gets none and for most part gets none.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
My point is, they've already fucked royally with canon, so them arguing for not doing something based on canon doesn't really make any sense.

[identity profile] finmagik.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no idea, it's kinda of a taboo to show Sherlock Holmes being sexual in anything remotey based on canon. The great detective can't get any. And in BBC!Sherlock he never has. Not even to see how it works. Like the reason Lovecraft.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
in anything remotey based on canon.

And again, I'll point out that they've already messed with canon pretty badly.

And in BBC!Sherlock he never has.

First off, we don't really know that, since he himself never said he was a virgin.

Second, "never has" does not equal "never will".

[identity profile] finmagik.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope. I hope, Hope.

[identity profile] finmagik.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I suppose. But I like better then the new movie. Also I'm Enjoying fandom. Let's have fun, I'm gettign sick of this debate. I get into them and I can't get out of them. Oh well. I just think what I see as fact, and it turns out it may not be. And then my head hurts.