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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-19 07:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #1843 ]

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-21 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah fine, but in my comment I wasn't arguing about that. I just didn't agree with all the examples given. I know full well that gay relationships aren't properly represented and believe there should be more of them on television, so please don't imply I'm somehow against it.

I'm not getting nitpicky. I'm trying to make my point more clear. I realize these relationships have been explored in the past, but I was thinking in terms of recent films and TV shows and how the new Sherlock compares with them. I think it's one of the few shows out there at the moment which handles the platonic relationship between two characters (and I'm not only talking about men) really well. That's my opinion. I'm not stating it as a fact. I haven't seen every single series out there, so maybe I'm wrong and that's fine.

Your tone and the tone of others in this post comes across as hostile as it seems like anyone who expresses the opinion that Sherlock and John should stay friends is perceived as being homophobic. It's incredibly insulting and is frankly one of the things which puts me off the Sherlock fandom.

[identity profile] ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com 2012-01-21 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not even in Sherlock fandom. I've never even seen the show. I looked at this thread because I agree with the sentiment that I'm increasingly sick of relationships like that on TV and in movies. In fact, knowing it would be like that is one of the main reasons I didn't watch Sherlock.

The more you clarify your point, the narrower and more pointless this becomes. "There aren't other stories that focus on deep male friendships." "Oh, there aren't other DRAMAS that focus on deep male friendships." "Oh, there aren't other dramas where the guys are OVER 30 that focus on deep male friendships." "Oh, there aren't other RECENT..." And so on. But actually, there are a lot of recent films and TV shows exactly like this. There just are. That's just a fact. There are no films or TV shows that have what I want to see, of any kind. So TBH, I find the whole debate pretty irksome.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-21 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
If you haven't even seen the show, then yeah, this is completely pointless because you're not going to see where I'm coming from.

[identity profile] ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com 2012-01-21 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
You haven't said anything that's made me think, "I would understand this better if I'd seen Sherlock." I've seen other Holmes adaptations. I've seen the other shows on my list. I don't feel that I'm missing anything, not watching yet another show about two guys who are SO IN LOVE~~~~ but not in a gay way.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-21 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of what I've been saying has been based on an episode that just aired, so..

Maybe you wouldn't feel differently, but you are missing out on a great show. That's all I have to say.

[identity profile] ncc-gqmf.livejournal.com 2012-01-21 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Except I've heard about what happens in that episode, including the ~graveyard speech~ and whatnot. It's still the exact same "they're in love but not really" thing, and I've had my fill of those shows. IF they fulfilled the OP's request and changed it, I'd watch the hell out of it, but I'm bored with white boy UST slashbait.